The probability of the necessity that your dog would have to defend you against a dog is less probable than that it would have to defend you against a human. Therefore the dog's ability to fight other dogs is less important than its ability to defend you against other people. Do you agree?
Why do we want to have a sharp dog? Because a danger of the other people's (animal eventually) side threatens us. Some of them are robbing, killing, doing a harm to others and they can do it to us as well. If there were no thieves, murderers etc. on the world, there would be no danger that other people could threaten us. Then we would cease to want to have good defenders, and companion breeds that train the agility would do.
From the defense viewpoint, there are three main groups of dogs:
1) Dogs that attack almost everybody. Statistics proved that these dogs bite innocent people more often than real villains.
2) Dogs that are half-sharp. On the one hand, they still are socialized halfway, on the other hand not reliable fully when in defense, though already useable partially against a human enemy.
3) Dogs that do not defend. Either they are timorous or too phlegmatic or, on the other way round, too good.
Each group has its advantage and disadvantage. Possibly, the second one may be the best, only if you do not have real enemies, of course. If you do, then the first one is the best.
I know that modern dog defense training is bad due to more reasons. The first reason is no training reminding and/or looking like real situation, that is defense training in natural environment - at home, on the garden, in the town street both in the day or in reverse in the night by means of a helper clothed in protective clothes hidden under normal one, so that the situation is looking truly to the dog. I think that only sleeve-biting training is detrimental to dogs. It is better to train protective clothes biting since dog is allowed to bit the entire body of the helper.
Protective clothes biting (Cane Corso called Diamonte, the owner of which is Dan Kierstead):
From the real owner defense viewpoint, the dog should not train defense using its “hunting drive” (being fixed on the sleeve holding and an absence of sense for fight with a human), but with sense for danger and human enemy paralyzation (dog is not to see a pray in the sleeve, but it is to see the enemy in the helper whom it tries to bite).
In less-aggressive breeds, the aggression should be much developed, in naturally sharp breeds is either developed also or do not suppressed at least. The basic rule has to be kept that (in puppies and young dogs especially) the dog can NEVER be fondled nor fed by a stranger, and no strangers can enter its holding that it watches.
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An excerpt from "Aggressivity" the chapter and one more additional info:
If you want your dog to properly watch you and your property, you should keep the following rules:
1) Your house your castle. Let it be watched by a splendid dog that likes its work. Never let strangers enter your house. If yes, close your dog to the cage to prevent its direct contact with the people. Let it feel free to bite everybody who gets to your premise.
2) Never allow your dog be fed or fondled by strangers. You can train it is this way: A helper clothed in normally looking clothes - once a man, othertime a kindly speaking woman - is giving your dog a piece of a food and when it wants to accept it, the helper hits your dog or pulls its skin (in this moment, the dog has to attack the helper and you praised him). In this way, your dog gets used to the fact that if a stranger gives it a food, he or she can have bad intentions. For there are people who try to become friends with your dog by giving it a feeding and later they abuse that your dog got used to them and is awaiting a food from them.
3) Never allow your dog to become a friend of your neighbors or friends. In the course of time, the situation may reverse and there can be enemies from friendly neighbors or friends. Then you will appreciate that your dog does not like them.
[When your home territory defense training, the helper - intruder - with a hidden protective clothes under a normal one - not only hits the fence but also jumps over it or unlocks the door by his own key and gives the dog a food, and only then he attacks the dog and let himself to be overpowered by it.]
I have seen several situations where normally trained dogs failed: A secret female agent got herself to a premise watched by a dog. She kindly spoke to it and gave it a piece of a meat. The dog neither barked at her. Another secret male agent drove a car slowly along the street in the white day where a victim walked her dog. He stopped his car at the victim and began to kindly spoke to her. Her socialized dog showed no aggressivity and was unobservant. Another agent got himself into the flat of another victim that was not at home. Her dog was at home, but accepted food from the agent and let him enter its owner's room.
Every proper defender must consider every stranger a possible danger to its master. There is no other way for the dog to defend the owner fully except for aggressivity and/or attack towards all the strange people who are getting close to him. If your dog will attack all people, only then you will have the certainty that it will attack also him who wants to do harm to you.
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The sharpness of many breeds is decreasing. Excessive obedience training as well as training at training area only damage dogs. By the words of “Trocha do mlyna”: „I would go with a change of the cynology as a whole in the frame of shows and examinations etc. (the shows i would keep for Poodles and similar toys), but such pointless turning around the leg, look to the left, sit, get down etc., that all is wrong, too old and with no perspectivity to the future. Personally, i am a big opponent of all the training areas and examinations etc. (attention, that is not valid for beginners, there it is more than necessary).“Accordingly to me, the important thing is attune oneself with his or her dog, let it experience a few real situations (arranged ones respectively that looks truly to the dog), so that it would have to really fight, really defend its owner, not only at the training area. Otherwise, the defense ability would decrease. “Trocha do mlyna” the man is disgusted with that: „How a Fila Brasileiro can allow the referee to touch its teeth?! Then it deals with a putrid apple.“
In “Dog fighting” we have already came to an approximate idea of single groups of dogs as far as their ability to fight other dogs. But how they are about the defense? “Trocha do mlyna” says about this: „As we already have cleared it out, the kings of dog versus dog fights are largest sheepherding breeds and Owtcharkas. I personally appreciate on them that they have the first place at the defense and watching too. But i would still (to compare the quality of respective breeds as far as the defense ability – comment) create the groups of a defense character against human enemies. The first group is CO, Fila, the second CAO, Bandog, RTW, Dogo, GSD, Dobermann, Bull Mastif, Presas, all the Molosses, a fantastic Cane Corso. The third AmStaff, Bull Terrier, Collie and others (i thought not about the force of an attack, but of the judgement about the attack in the case of defense).“
If we compare the defense abilities in breeds like giant shepherds and/or Owtcharkas, for instance Caucasian Owtcharka, or on the other way round in breeds like short-coated Molosses e.g. Rottweiler, “Trocha do mlyna” says: „Caucasian Ovcharka is in comparison with Rottweiler as a Kalaschnikov compared to a 9 mm pistol, but both arms can kill.“
The Caucasian Owtcharka during teasing and sleeve-biting first, and then a Central Asian Owtcharka (dogs are held on a leash, otherwise they can attack the head; photos by Mr. and Mrs. Fronkovi “Pravo tesaku” the kennel http://www.pravo-tesaku.com/):
Let us take a look at the Caucasian Owtcharka for the first. It is a very good large premises watcher, it is able to attack an intruder at several hundreds of meters distance (it simply goes for him so far). My CO Gero for example used to hide himself in the shadow of cars and approached the thief with no noise and jump on him. In this way he has also beaten a man down. When a CO is somewhere alone with its master it splendidly defends him by attacking everybody who gets near. But when in the white day in the town streets or in the train, it usually is unobservant. For it does not manage to distinct very good when it is or is not to defend. I tried to learn him to bite the sleeve but when he was one year old he did not bite well (he began to be sharp about one year and half or even little later - these dogs are not maturing as soon as most of the other breeds), he simply did not want to hold the sleeve. Later i tried him on a biting roll using an experienced helper. Gero bit and pulled, the helper leaned forward, and Gero immediately released the biting roll and attacked the helper's throat. He dodged quickly and i pulled Gero away from the helper. But both clothes (the army masked) were torn near the throat. Then he said that he has ever seen nothing like that though he did the helper to many breeds. These dogs know very well that it has no sense to hold that what is put in front of them by a man. But they re-bite instinctively until they have a bite in the most vulnerable place.
Few photos of Gero:
Caucasian Owtcharka during the teasing and the sleeve-biting (pictures by Jana Zemanova):
As “Trocha do mlyna” claims: „Thanks to the rare Ovcharkas presence in the cities (and there were not too much tragedies), they are not medially labelled as dangerous, at the same time it is clear how the thief and Ovcharka confrontation would end. I bet my shoes that it would be a death (in breeds of lower weight he has a kind of chance to escape).“ But for example “Asyryn” calls the attention to the difference between single Owtcharkas and about the difference between a CO and a CAO she claims this: „There is a difference between a Caucasian and an Asian, the Russians themselves have a nice saying: „Caucasian firstly bites and then it thinks, Asian firstly thinks and then it bites.”
The Rottweiler, on the contrary, has a better sense to know when it is or is not to defend (i think that the sharpness of Rotties is decreasing a bit, too). My RTW Bredy bitten several people, i used him for a night police work. He has only had 40 kg but he was unyielding and incorruptible. When somebody tried to give him a food, he ignored it and attacked the man immediately. Only few dogs manage that! Once i have met a man who claims he will beat Bredy. It was an interesting fight. The man kicked Bredy away, pushed him down, but Bredy again jumped up and again snapped as long as he caught the hand of the man. Finally i had to tore Bredy off the man. And once he even managed to straighten a group of drunk people absolutely alone! For Rottweilers really are excellent defenders (fighting breeds are far cry from them!).
Bredy close to the end of his life:
But i have to say, that i was surprised nicely by my German Shepherd Rex (only 32 kg, 62 cm) as well, when we both were attacked by a drunken hooligan. He waved with his arms and began to jostle to both of us. On the beginning, i held my dog and told the man to leave us. He did not cease and hit my dog's head for several times. Then i released the leash and Rex started out and bit the man's arm through. Then the man cooled down and returns to the pub where his wound was disinfected by a vodka. And gave us a peace.
Some thought that it is hardly possible to calm aggressive dogs if they attack a human (problems to call them back), which is true partially. When the dog is really sharp and is fully tearing the enemies of its master, calling it back may lasts for a while, but RTW managed to return to peace quickly after the fight is over (a well-balanced character is required).
Short-coated Molosses sleeve-biting (Neapolitan Mastiff Herkul, Rottweiler Agar, and RTWs from “Anaco” the kennel and 2x “Ballotada” the kennel):
“Trocha do mlyna” tells: „ A thousand of best alarms do not give so much peace for sleeping as a feeling that you have a truehearted and dauntless fighter near you that is able to fight for you up to the last breath.“ And where the feeling of certainty comes from?
When somebody lies nearest you who will fight for you and who like you (apart from the fight, it also has a good sense of hearing and olfaction and may hear or smell your enemy in time - to wake up its owner and he or she catches to aim the enemy with the pistol), then sleeping really goes more easily. Whoever would go to attack you, only the feeling that you are not alone, that someone will fall for you and with you, it warms your heart. Here is an excerpt on dog's faithfulness from my short story called “How I Searched Love And How I Find It”: „I found love behind the bared teeth of a beast that had no mercy with anybody, and, after all, the heart softer and more beautiful than those female creatures with attractively rounded hips and exuberant breasts, an embrace more frank than all the human friends. A love that did require neither money nor outside beauty from me. And that managed to forgive all the unfairness and betrayals better than people do.“
I stress the fact that if you have real enemies, all the normally trained and socialized dogs are for no use. It is nice when dog obeys and is good with people, but when a murderer of its master comes and it admits him into the house with no fight and takes a feeding from him or, my God, even wags with its tail and even passes him his paw, hardly anything hurts as much as the owner's disappointment in his own dog.
“Trocha do mlyna” again: „It is good to see an APBT defense training (it is laughable), also Torin laughs about that and i am sure that there is a difference in its defense and in the defense of Fila, RTW, Dobermann, GSD etc. As i know also RTW manages to fight to the last breath while defending its family (i think that it is the most important “game”).“
Teasing (Cinda and Mr. Ladislav Caslavsky):

On the one hand, to have a sharp dog is fine, it however is necessary to add, that if a man has a dangerous dog, he or she must secure it well to be unable to escape for example from the garden to the street and tear there somebody. Is that even possible to secure a dangerous dog in a way it could never get out of the premise to the people outside? Is that possible to watch it during 100% of the dog's life time, all the locking of doors, the control of a fence and so on? “Trocha do mlyna”: I, personally, consider myself a dangerous man (i allowed myself to call me like that) and i would not have a certainty even against a GSD much less against a CO, since you would not have to succeed in paralyzing it by a grip and it can pull itself out and it may tear your throat, and such an Ovcharka would not be frightened and what if it deals with a woman or a child. We must realize that a strong dog is a kind of a weapon that can be bought freely but it can start to shoot by itself: it is necessary to have a large fence with the concrete under it and at all the cases in all the circumstances to precede everything and to be at least for three draws in the chessboard of life before your dog and solve all the situations preventively. Despite this everything can happen, nothing is hundred of percents sure (except for the death), it depends on how many percents we will help to make the entire result.“
To have a sharp dog it requires also power to hold it (i have seen a woman that was not able to hold her New Foundland Dog; when he wanted to fight, he got out of her weak hands easily) and the knowledge of the tactics how to hold the dog in a way it could not pull out of your hands (some dogs move themselves to the backwards and the muzzle as well as the collar can fall away; in this moment it is necessary to slacken the leash and pull it again when the dog ceases to pull to the backward).
So that we could get to the conclusion about defending dogs even if the conclusion results from the above-mentioned, let us concentrate the written facts again.
There are written thousands of prates in thousands of books, but i do KNOW how it really is in practice. Have you ever seen a CO tearing the head of an innocent woman and the blood everywhere around? I have! I have seen CO's and RTW's crackdowns and there was a big difference. CO = explosion and bringing down a human like an animal and then no interest. RTW (or a short-coated Moloss) = lesser explosion but stabile under all circumstances even among lots of people in the white day, when just Owtcharkas orientate badly.
A young pretty Cane Corso bitch called Della Porta Dipinta while training the sleeve-biting (Dracarys kennel Israel):

“Trocha do mlyna” explains: „I would go for the idea about dogs that are fit for us and for children especially. Yes, we all know who is the best etc. (Owtcharkas at dog fighting and in the human enemies destroying - comment), but in the beginning, your entire book was about why to choose a RTW and similar ones. They are the right ones for us as normal men who do not have large pasturages neither security agency. Keep giant shepherds in the light you introduced them in this book - as killers beyond compare, but not fit to our environment. They are not dogs of family, they are much stand-alone breeds (of course, they can also live in a family with children but their socialization is then very important), but they fall behind in comparison with e.g. Cane Corso as far as relationship to children and family as such. When a normal thief, biting of Rottweiler will do, than an uncompromising impact of a CO. It is sufficient to bite the thief (or a human enemy) and it is not necessary to mutilate or kill him like giant shepherds and Ovcharkas do. Rottweilers are also used by Police because of their adequate defense. Ovcharka cannot know the adequate defense, since it had to defend through centuries by the one only style - the harder one. They are not dogs of family as Molosses.” The living prove of this affirmation is a Moscow Watchdog (Moscovskaya Storozhevaya Sobaka), which is a CO and Saint Bernard cross (perhaps even mixed with a small percent of Russian hunting dog) because of its character's improvement for watching purposes.
Moscow Watchdog (photos by Mr. and Mrs. Fronkovi, “Pravo tesaku” the kennel):
I would like to add, that as far as Owtcharkas socialization concerns, there is one big problem. If they are socialized properly and their nature made softer, they can be bad defenders. And when their aggressivity is let to be developed, then they are dangerous not only to strange people but quite often to the own ones. Therefore i find giant shepherds and Owtcharkas unsuitable companions of people who are living in a civilized human society.
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