(Rottweilers and Pit Bulls)? I constantly see children horribly mauled or killed by vicious dog breeds (such as Rottweilers and Pit Bulls, etc) in the news. Should more be done to protect our children? For Example, Ban killer dog breeds. Make owners even more accountable, feloney charges and jail time even for the first bite. In the case of Pitbulls and Rotties the first attack is often fatal.So what would be best for America?Please vote:1) More Dogs breeds banned.2) More accountability(harsher laws) for owners whose dogs break free of their leashes and attack people.3) More children mauled to death.So what would be best for America?Please vote:1) More Dogs breeds banned.2) More accountability(harsher laws) for owners whose dogs break free of their leashes and attack people.3) More children mauled to death(Status Quo).

The Liberals will pass a law to protect you from everything...give it time...

No, you only hear about them because they are newsworthy. You don't hear about kids being bitten by a smaller breed of dog, which happens more often than with Rotties and Pit Bulls. And, don't blame the dog, blame the owners who raise them as such. If they pass such a law, then they need to do it for all dogs. Smaller dogs bite and attack much more often.Leave it to some con to bash liberals on something that has nothing to do with politics.

Not all rottweilers and pit bulls are vicious, so no.

Although I live in the country, literally surrounded by dogs of the "killer breeds" you mention ... I've never had a problem with the "killer breeds!"I've been attacked twice, once by a golden retreiver, and once by a Beagle-looking mutt.The first attack the dog was PRAISED by the owner for the attack (attack caused by the dog trying to please the "alpha male" of his pack?), and the mutt attacked when his owner was away and I attempted to deliver a package (dogs have a strong territorial instinct, I "invaded his space").I was not badly injured in either attack, in the first I was able to escape up a tree, and in the second a well aimed burst of "dog repellant" did the trick.Dogs attack for various reasons, I've met pit bulls I would let my grandkids play with, and Bassett Hounds I would kill if the came within striking distance of anyone in my family! As others before me have said, it ain't the dog, it's the OWNER. If the owner "sets the dog" on someone or encourages the dog to attack, it should be considered assault with a deadly weapon (dog = weapon). The only defense allowed on that charge would be self defense/defense of a third party. If the dog is behaving in an instinctive manner ("defending his property", or defending his pack/self) without encouragement of the owner ... maybe the "victim" was trespassing, we must take into account that dogs have certain "built in" traits.We know where the dog is, many times we know where the owner of the dog is ... where are the parents of these children?? I was taught to respect property lines VERY early (and wasn't allowed to stray far from a responsible adult family member before I knew "how far is too far"). In many cases these children are attacked on the dog owner's property (where the dog thinks he must "protect the pack") certainly allowing a 3 or 4 year old unrestricted "roaming time" in a neighborhood must be at least neglect! By 5 years they should already be learning about boundaries "you may play in the back yard ... but do not leave the yard!"I expect to get flamed to the end of the Earth on this answer, it's too long and "blames the victim" BUT... what can I say, it's honest!

You, sir, are retarded.

Ornery,

You won't get flamed from me...I agree 110%! I say this constantly to people! Why should dog owners have to not only discipline and train their dogs and children, but EVERYBODY ELSE'S children as well? Do you know how many children will bolt up to me and my dogs when I take them for a walk? They just reach and grab with no thoughts! Parents stand there and smile like it's nothing. The funniest thing is when they ask after the fact, and then try to make small talk and find out that my dogs are a pitbull and pitbull mix. So many times they snatch their kids and wisk them off...but it was fine when they ran up and nearly jumped on their backs?

My grandfather (RIP) had a pitbull (his wife still has her) who was seriously abused as a pup. She's a sweet girl with those she knows, but can be territorial and has never been around children (none in the family). They are very responsible with her and have signs posted, and put locks on the gates so people can't accidently open them. Then she's in an enclosed pen in the back ontop of it when they're not right there with her. Again, she's never bitten, but they take percaution due to her past of neglect and abuse. One day my grandfather was working in the basement and happen to go to the shed for another tool and some kid had jumped the fence and was letting the dog out of the pen. What if that kid got bit...who's fault? He was about 11 years old, old enough to know what the sign meant. This is more often than not when people are bit...for tresspassing!

Teach your children...more often than not it's YOUR fault they get mauled as they're not taught respect for others or their property.

Arggghhhh.....Rotts and Pits are NOT dangerous Breeds!!!! I have Owned Rottis and they have been around Since my kids have been born! They are great family dogs. They are loving and sweet, and not Dangerous!! Stupid People are dangerous! Any dog can be dangerous in the worng hands!

[xtopdawg386x]

Originally Posted by ornery and mean

Although I live in the country, literally surrounded by dogs of the "killer breeds" you mention ... I've never had a problem with the "killer breeds!"I've been attacked twice, once by a golden retreiver, and once by a Beagle-looking mutt.The first attack the dog was PRAISED by the owner for the attack (attack caused by the dog trying to please the "alpha male" of his pack?), and the mutt attacked when his owner was away and I attempted to deliver a package (dogs have a strong territorial instinct, I "invaded his space").I was not badly injured in either attack, in the first I was able to escape up a tree, and in the second a well aimed burst of "dog repellant" did the trick.Dogs attack for various reasons, I've met pit bulls I would let my grandkids play with, and Bassett Hounds I would kill if the came within striking distance of anyone in my family! As others before me have said, it ain't the dog, it's the OWNER. If the owner "sets the dog" on someone or encourages the dog to attack, it should be considered assault with a deadly weapon (dog = weapon). The only defense allowed on that charge would be self defense/defense of a third party. If the dog is behaving in an instinctive manner ("defending his property", or defending his pack/self) without encouragement of the owner ... maybe the "victim" was trespassing, we must take into account that dogs have certain "built in" traits.We know where the dog is, many times we know where the owner of the dog is ... where are the parents of these children?? I was taught to respect property lines VERY early (and wasn't allowed to stray far from a responsible adult family member before I knew "how far is too far"). In many cases these children are attacked on the dog owner's property (where the dog thinks he must "protect the pack") certainly allowing a 3 or 4 year old unrestricted "roaming time" in a neighborhood must be at least neglect! By 5 years they should already be learning about boundaries "you may play in the back yard ... but do not leave the yard!"I expect to get flamed to the end of the Earth on this answer, it's too long and "blames the victim" BUT... what can I say, it's honest!

I 100% percent agree with your answer !!!!

I have seen more then once kids harassing dogs and teasing the animals because its funny for example was over at a friends house the neighbor kid apox 13 yrs old was throwing rocks /sticks at the golden retriever we stopped the kid reported the child's behavior to the parents and police to have a written record of this .apox a week later the child was in the back yard of the dogs doing the same thing and the lab bit the child causing serious injury to the child the parents tried going after the owner of the dog some how the golden retriever was reported as a pit bull to the dispatcher after all was said and done no charges were pressed on the owner and the parents of the child trying to sue the owner . So bottom line the child got what he deserved as bad as it is to say .Have seen american pit bull terriers done the same way and never bit any one .

(killer breeds )pit bulls well to inform you that pit bulls is a term that used for several breeds . american pit bull terriers how ever are not human aggressive there animal aggressive. The owners of any breed should be held responsible for the animal actions if it warrants it which means if the owner sicks the animal on some one the dog not succored on the property . How ever if the so called victim is harassing or abusing the animal or come on to the property with out owners conceit or breaking into home ect. then the owner should not be held responsible since the dog protecting its self or property or property owner . If your going to target one breed as a (Killer breed of humans) then they should do research because the american pit bull only killed 92 people in the last 45 years there apox 5.3 million pit bulls /pit bull mixes in the united states . 92 deaths resulted in 45 years 42,636 people a year die in car wrecks which broke down is 116.83 people a day that die in wrecks people kill more people in one day then pit bulls have in 45 years . so the killer breed of humans is actually humans ! so lets ban cars and people since there killing people ! yes 92 people dieing from dogs is bad . How ever your talking about pit bulls being bad as a whole breed is incorrect when you actually do research and investigate 98 % of people who own these animals do right with them and care for them like any other breed and never have any problems with this breed .1-2 percent of people using these animals are criminals that are turning these animals into human aggressive animals and fighting these dogs . these are the same people that are carrying fire arms commenting crimes and stealing breaking into homes and killing people .if these breeds banned then bottom line these same 1-2 % of people will continue commenting crimes and will find another breed to turn human aggressive and to fight weather this new breed will be labs ridge backs Doberman ect we wont no until this happens . How ever if these breed does get banned then the 1-2 % of criminals will sky rocket since honest and good people will be turned into criminals because they will not give up there dogs . If these people trying to create bands on breeds would do research they would find out that the little breeds bite more people and send more people to the hospital each year then all so called (killer breeds ) apox. 800,000 people including kids go to the hospital for dog bits from all breeds . this is never reported because there not deaths but when looking at all facts its the little breeds that need a ban not the so called (killer breeds ) because bottom line a bite is bite no matter how you look at it .If these so called killer breeds are on there own property and some one is injured from them then there needs to be an investigation done and be treated like a murder and find out exactly what happened and not just blame the breed .Honestly if some one comes on to a property that has dogs and there not invited then bottom line there trespassing most mail boxes are located out side the fenced in area's so there no need to come to the door if there not then the owner should do so that solves the problem of mail carries being bit .any thing thats to large for the mail box goes back to the post office and a piece of paper stating you have mail there is left in the mail box . there no other reason any one should be coming into your property to get bit if they do then these is trespassing and if thats the case then bottom line no matter what breed the person or persons deserve what they get . i no some may say what if the kid to small to read the signs simple argument to that is then charge the parents with neglect of the child and for endangering the child's life for not watching them because if they cant read then there not old enough to be running loose . Most not all but most biting can be prevented with a little education on the so called victims .if a dog growling and barking at you and hair on the backs raised these is very good warning signs your pissing the animal off or crossing the line . all dogs no matter if its a so called unprovoked bite or not they all give warning signs its humans responsibly to read these signs and get out of danger . Once again i see the what if its a small child here the same response were the parents of the child ? Im sure there will be people that hate this post fill free to send me a message please include facts with your opinions to back them up because i will be responding back to them with facts not only opinions .

[dwehr1223]

guess what, my neighbors 4 and 1/2 year old GERMAN SHEPHERD bit her friend on the arm. and the german shepherd, is a retired police dog (due to injuries- hip displasia.) because she disturbed him while he was sleeping...another one for you, my sisters shih tzu nipped a child, because the child picked her up the wrong way. and she had to be put down due to 'law'? sir.. you need to do your research.. my 9 month old american grey wolf puppy was attacked by a YORKIE. my moms 9 year old akita inu dog.. KILLED by a lazy dog owners golden retriever. it sickens me that what you hear on the news is the things that happen with all dogs, cats, horses, rabbits ect. but is always blamed on "bully breeds/killer breeds" . come onnnnnnnnnn.

[Lunareclipse]

This post is over 3 years old. This dude probably got flamed off the forums for being a troll. I am going to close this thread. If anyone wishes to start a new one on this subject, feel free.