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Old 01-04-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Hi I'm new here and I have a question for all of you. I have my lil Charlie B (as in Charlie B good, Charlie B nice, etc.) and he is the start of a new breed of dog. Now I have found names for a two mix but he is four in one. Charlie is Pug, Chiuaua, Laso Apso, and Daschund. We can get $250.00 to 300.00 each for them. We will negotiate. We just want to know they will get thier shots and be taken to vet. if need be. If you charge for them then you can be pretty sure the people will take care of them. The pet stores said they could be sold at $350.00 plus. Anyway this Charlie also has two beautiful wives. I like to call them Charlies Angels. Thier names are Diyeta (beloved) Aiyana (eternal blossom) & Matti (Matilda). Well that's enough for now. If anyone has a suggestion on what to call this new breed it would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-04-2009   #2 (permalink)
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Can I ask WHY you are trying to make a new breed when there are over 300 already available. Are your dogs tested by OFA & CERF for genetic thyroid, patella, hip and eye diseases? Did you test for Brucellosis prior to breeding?
Have you visited a shelter to see the thousands of mixed breed dogs that are killed weekly because nobody wants them?

If you are doing it RIGHT you loose money breeding!!! If you have made a profit you have missed something!!
 
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We have a private shelter or it would seem so. We take in animals that no one else wants. So we do do our part. We don't just breed all our animals, that would mean to many and be very irresponsible. These dogs are in high demand in our area. We are great animal lovers and are blessed with the good fortune of being able to help these animals. It is actually our friends whom we are working on this breed with. You can make and name your own breed of dog. And as long as they are in demand and the people are willing to take care of them properly, I see no reason why not. They are what is called a designer dog. They are big dogs (independent) in a little dog body. Our animals include: 5 lizards, 1 patagonia parrot (w/1 leg), 1 Quaker Parrot, 1 conure, 4 cockatiels, 5 parakeets, 5 ferrets, 7 guinea pigs, 1 gerbil, 5 cats, 4 dogs, & 2 puppies. So I think that we are doing our part for unwanted animals. And as far as that goes some of our animals are from shelters. So I hope this has answered your question and we do do all of this on our own w/out any help. People find out about us from word of mouth, although we are full up at the moment. Oh yeah, my husband and I are disabled, so they gets lots of love and in return they give us love. Have a beautiful day!
 
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we are not just doing this for the money so it doesn't matter. As long as we can make something to help the other animals w/food, vet checks, shots, etc.
 
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Have you done the OFA & CERF and other tests I mentioned on the dogs that are being bred? How do you know you are not passing on crippling and expensive health problems to your buyers?
 
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What I find odd is you say that you take dogs in. Are you a rescue or a puppymill? If you are getting your information as to retail by talking to a pet store than you are in fact not rescuing but are in fact looking to make money.
Sorry, I rescue and under no circumstances would I ever breed my rescues.
In addition, you are talking about 4 separate breeds yet you could only spell one breed name correctly. Anyone that is involved with breeding at least is capable of correctly spelling the breed name.
This is really not the forum to use in hopes someone will endorse your idea of breeding and that the need is for money for the other dogs. I have 18 and am retired on fixed income and do not need to breed and sell in order to take care of the ones I have taken in. You have offered nothing here to prove that you are anything but a puppymill or BYB looking to make money.
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We have a private shelter or it would seem so. We take in animals that no one else wants!
so many animals that no one wants, pure breed, or cross breed

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So we do do our part!
By adding more animals to a world that already disposes of them left right and center?

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We don't just breed all our animals, that would mean to many and be very irresponsible. !
and breeding just some of them is responsible????

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These dogs are in high demand in our area!
Im sure there are plenty more rescues out there looking for a home, Is their damand for this need not as important as the damand of yet another bunch of oooooodles?

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We are great animal lovers and are blessed with the good fortune of being able to help these animals. !
Help?? How so???? By turning them into some sort of experiment for the sake of a new so called breed (which by the way would never be recognised by any of the governing kennel associations)

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It is actually our friends whom we are working on this breed with.!
Its not a breed, it is a mixture of all sorts, a mutt if you will, and whilst our beloved mutt can be just as wonderful as the next dog, it does not mean that you have any right.......ability yes, but not the right, to add to an increasing unwanted population of our furry friends.


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You can make and name your own breed of dog. And as long as they are in demand and the people are willing to take care of them properly, I see no reason why not.They are what is called a designer dog.!
would that be the same demand of all the other "designer breeds" that are fast filling the shelters around the world???


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They are big dogs (independent) in a little dog body. .!
I could name you many reccognised little pure breeds that are independant and have a big zest for life, bred excactly for this nature!


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Our animals include: 5 lizards, 1 patagonia parrot (w/1 leg), 1 Quaker Parrot, 1 conure, 4 cockatiels, 5 parakeets, 5 ferrets, 7 guinea pigs, 1 gerbil, 5 cats, 4 dogs, & 2 puppies. So I think that we are doing our part for unwanted animals.And as far as that goes some of our animals are from shelters.!
Its good that you are willing and able to take on some of these animals, but i can guarentee you if you start breeding just any dog to any dog, there will be a good percentage of them thrown into the shelter once the novelty wares off.

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So I hope this has answered your question and we do do all of this on our own w/out any help.!
But also by your own decision and choosing.

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People find out about us from word of mouth, although we are full up at the moment.!
So are in no position then to care for the pups that are not wanted, or have some sort of medical condition and require expensive vetanary care, what if mum needs a c section through labour? Costs lots? what about health checking before rehoming and vaccination for several pups, desexing?? or is this to be the responsibility of the new owner????


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Oh yeah, my husband and I are disabled, so they gets lots of love and in return they give us love. Have a beautiful day!
Glad they give you lots of love, and sorry about your disabilites, but im afraid it does not entice me to support, or even condone your reasons for breeding dogs that just need love.........oh and desexing!

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Old 01-05-2009   #8 (permalink)
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its really hard to suggest a name if i can't see the picture of your dog..
 
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I have a great name...

MUTT
 
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To create a "new breed" you must first have a vision of what you're trying to create. And you have to set goals on how you're going to get there. It's not something done haphazardly.

If you want to understand the development of a new breed, check out the history of breeds like the Doberman, or the Cesky Terrier. The developers of these breeds both had a vision, and a plan on how they were going to do it.

If you just start putting dogs together, willy nilly, all you're going to produce are mutts.
 
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