I have to agree with Corky, until we have their size I cannot be sure but as one who breeds Miniature Pinscher, they look like a clear Red and Black & Tan Miniature Pinschers to me. Just all natural, ie: tails intact and not docked.
Also to note, Reds and Blacks can be born in the same litter.
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No I am not a Miniature Doberman, I was around 200 years before Karl Frederich Louis Doberman created the Dobie, and as for my friends the Manx cats, yes they are better at playing fetch than I am, I am a Miniature Pinscher. http://blackhawkkennels.webs.com/
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