[puppylove2009]

Don't say every dog is trainable because I firmly believe I have met one that can't be trained or refuses to be.

This isn't my dog.

But I know a couple who have had two boxers for about 5 years. the boxers are 5 and 8. and they are new parents.

Anyways these dogs have both been through tons of training and classes. And my friend is working with the constantly. and they get tons of exercise and playtime

They have had each of these dogs since they were 8 weeks old.

Now the 8 year old is a wonderful dog, very well trained. Wonderfully behaved and just a joy to be around.

she has never been destructive and very patient with the new baby too.


The 5 year old they trained her too, they did classes and working every day at home and to this day that dog acts like she is a little puppy.

she is still not completely potty trained, she jumps up on everyone that comes in. she barks a lot. And she has a tendency to tear things up if you aren't watching her.

And I know they have yet to let her in the same room as the baby.

Now this dog wouldn't hurt a fly but she is just unruly and hyper

I just know they are getting frustrated and now with a newborn they don't have the time to focus on the dogs antics. I think she is spending quite a bit of time in the crate since the baby was born


What would you do with a dog like this?

What would be your next step in training her.....or is she a lost cause?

Like I said these aren't my dogs but I'm curious. I want to help them through this but I even feel this might be a lost cause with her. And that she is just always going to be this way


By the way with the new baby money is very tight (even though they both have really good jobs) so I don't think they want to do any more classes for awhile not to mention they are worn out with a newborn

Every dog trains differently. Like Every human learns differently.

The one dog did awsome in the lessons the other not good at all. They need another way to train the dog. They may need to go back to basics start from a puppy and train her themselfs.

Do the treat thing with good behavior inforce it every day. Potty training once again start from a puppy get the pads when she does it on the furniture show her the mess take her outside to do it. When she Does do it outside praise her give her a treat. The Basics. They got to back to basics the training class may have just not been for her.

5 years old is just not tolerable they will have to start again and do it themselfs at home.

[puppylove2009]

The problem is with a 3 week old I don't know how willing they are to go back to the basics. at this time. they work full time (well he does right now and in 3 weeks she is going back to work full time) and they are exhuasted (this wasn't a planned childe) I mean they have been treating her like a puppy since she was a puppy. constantly correcting behavior but it doesn't register. I mean the dog isn't in danger of being rehomed but they want to make their lives easier but are too tired to do it.....you know.

I offered to help but when I suggested going back to the basics they freaked out.

I mean they seem to want help but they just feel they are too tired to do the work

I'll be honest I think they are overwhelmed

[puppylove2009]

i will tell them that again. (This is a real close member of the family and I don't want to make him mad but at the same time he asked for help)

tell them good luck i know it is tough but that poor dog has no idea of bounderies they will not get eny rest and No is just not goin to work enymore.....once again good luck with all the good wishes to them!

Puppylove, I know this is kind of a strange thing to ask, but seeing as how overwhelmed the young couple is with an unruly dog, a newborn, full time jobs, and sleep deprivation, what is the feasibility of either you or someone else fostering (and perhaps training) the problem dog for awhile until they can get more settled in with the routine of parenthood?

I agree with Corset; the only way is to go back to square one and start the dog with a new method of training, one they haven't tried before. But if they are just too frazzled to do anything at this point, then perhaps rehoming the dog, even temporarily, would be the best thing for everyone.

[puppylove2009]

Originally Posted by Mydogiscute

Puppylove, I know this is kind of a strange thing to ask, but seeing as how overwhelmed the young couple is with an unruly dog, a newborn, full time jobs, and sleep deprivation, what is the feasibility of either you or someone else fostering (and perhaps training) the problem dog for awhile until they can get more settled in with the routine of parenthood?

I agree with Corset; the only way is to go back to square one and start the dog with a new method of training, one they haven't tried before. But if they are just too frazzled to do anything at this point, then perhaps rehoming the dog, even temporarily, would be the best thing for everyone.

I know most of the family will not even go over to their house because of the dogs. (Most of the people in my family are kind of stuck up and like there little accessory bred down dogs and are scared to death of anything bigger than 5 pounds.....which makes me very mad because they won't come see me either. I have an 11 pound poodle who is much better behaved than there 4 and 5 pound poodles and a 25 pound mutt)

Anyways I would take the dog in a heartbeat but my apartment doesn't allow more than two dogs per unit and I'm actually in the process of moving to another state.

I have offered to come over when I'm not working and work with the dog during the day. But I said its going to take more than me working with her because I told them they have to live with her (they do not want to part with her) and she needs to be submissive to them and see them as the pack leader.


Something they haven't tried that I kind of want to try. (I'm actually going to try it with my dogs too, they are a bit too barky at innapropriate times. they picked up some bad habits when we moved to this apartment complex from the other dogs out on walks and that is barking at dogs that are larger than them.)

I would like to try Clicker Training. Do you think this might be a successful method in both cases? Especially for the boxer?

The problem is I can't be with that dog all the time so they are going to have to be willing to go with it with me. But I feel if I get in there I might be able to work it out. Atleast get some her better qualities coming out.

Until they can get the help of a professional and I do feel this dog may need a behaviorist. I mean 5 years of several different training methods always going back to day one there has to be something that triggers it.

Though her behavior has been much worse for the last 2 years that they have lived in a house. (She was an apartment dog most of her life)


But I want to help. Do you think Clicker might be a good approach

Clicker training is a VERY indepth training tool. It is a repatition that has to be used 24/7 if you use it for the boxer you got to make sure the couple uses it. The clicker is a very basic training tool it is easy to use and could have powerful results.

The may need to have help to understand there boxer.If she is that unruley thay got to look at what has happend in the last wille.They just gotta keep working with her never lose your cool never lose your patience. If She has alot of energy get her into track running or speed raceing with jumps.

If they pick a training method make them stick to it do not switch around. If there Flakey on the training method so will the dog. They got to ground in there heals clench there teeth and push on with the training.