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09-07-2005
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My Dobie is urinating in my bed - deliberatly!
I've been having a bed wetting dog for a couple months.
I first suspected a medical problem, but that seems to not be the problem.
Spring - my adopted doberman mix rescue dog has taken to peeing in my bed. The first couple times, she was allowed to sleep on the bed - I awoke to a wet spot. I then made her a bed on the floor next to me - I've come home from work to find a wet spot - a LARGE wet spot - not a little leak spot - always in the place I sleep on the bed. I've banished her from the bedroom entirely now and it's become a spite and defiance thing now.
In the mean time, there has been a new g/f, and a full time job. I come home at lunch daily for about 5 minutes.
I'm thinking that she should stay outside, but being a dobie - she's very much a next to me kind of dog.
Is there anything I can do, besides bannish the dog to the back yard?
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09-08-2005
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Hello,
Dogs are not spiteful or defiant. However they can be untrained and stressed.
I would keep her out of your bedroom for a while.
It is normal for newly adopted dogs to have some "issues" when they first come into a new home.
Did you take her to the vet for a urinalysis?
After you know for sure it's not a medical problem......
I would crate her when your not home so she does not have the chance to eliminate or destroy anything.
Practice obedience, to establish who is really in charge. You would be amazed at the difference obedience can make:-)
Please don't just give up on her.
Also, I would clean your matress with some kind of pet odor/phermone eliminator, or get a new one before you start letting her back in your bedroom. If the smell is still there she may get "inspired" if ya know what i mean :-)
Hope this helps
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09-08-2005
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Hello Jessie, thanks for stopping by.
I've relented and decided it's better to ban her from the bedroom - she's never been an outdoor only dog and that isn't right.
She's been here for 3 years, she is pretty well obedience trained, - I say fairly, because she has a much easier time if she can go get a toy to carry sometimes; I can spot the first flicker of that thought in her and I have gotten her to where she will obey - if I spot the behavior soon enough. Sometimes she is a little slow to obey; especially if she is watching something or someone. She is one hell of a watchdog. In the past I have yelled commands to get her attention - lately I have stopped yelling and trying repeating the commands - She understands Marine Drill Sergeant very well. Somewhat better in fact than heavy approval and praise.
Obedience wise - she's about a 6.75 off lead and 9.75 with the training collar. - I call her my "blonde" Doobie. I got her at about 2 years; she's here for the duration. When I first got her, a regular choke collar had very little effect - I was talking with a co-worker,, he recamended I get her a training collar with the prongs - just a slight tug with that and she listens perfectly. - First dog that was ever a requirement with!
I eliminated medical causes when she wet my bed with in 1/2 hour of when I left and came back. If that's not spite - she's defiantly saying something. There's been a new girlfriend - which isn't a regular occurrence and the Dobie is not happy - but she seems to love the lady, no bad signs at all. - So long as I like a wet bed.
I think your right - return to the basics, spend some time with her (the dog) and while I have airline kennel, I'd save that for later, however,,,,,, I am considering locking her in the kennel - on top of the bed. Maybe for three or four hours a day. That way she can be in the bed and I won't have to worry. - - That just might help!
Later edit - I thought about the kennel some more and set it up next to the bed. Thanks for the imput; I've NEVER heard of a dog willingly wetting a bed, but when all else fails - return to basics and work from there. I'll be posting back for those that may be interested.
I'm going to get her checked by a vet too,- just incase.
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11-26-2005
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Bed Wetting
I have the same problem with my Westie. She is 7 years old, has no medical problems and she doesn't wet her own bed but every single time I change my bedding she waits til I'm out of the room, jumps on the bed and urinates all over it! Even when she has just been outside! She soaks the sheets and duvet and mattress, in fact she has just done it on my pillow!
It's not possible to block her from the room as my door fell off last year and I can't fix it back on!
The worst thing is my washing machine has been broken for the last 2months and I can't afford to get it fixed. This is the 3rd time she has done this in that space of time and my patience is wearing very thin.
She is not allowed on my bed and knows it, she has her own bed on the floor and my other Westie doesn't do this.
WHY IS SHE DOING IT?????
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! :cry:
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11-26-2005
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Jane
I set her airline kennel next to the bed and put a nice soft blanket in there. Easy to keep clean, and she has had no problems since.
If you don't have a kennel, they are easy to find at thrift stores. (Unless you need one.)
good luck! - check back ok?
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02-24-2006
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Jesse is right, sometimes a dog just needs proper training. I often refer people having dog training problems to a rather helpful guide:
http://globalsky.sitstay.hop.clickbank.net
This is a guide to Dog Obedience Training Secrets to TRANSFORM Your Dog’s Behavior Problems.
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02-26-2006
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Sometimes in a stress ful life dogs try to step up and be the leader, and wetting on the spot where you sleep sounds very dominant to me. Remember you are in charge and I think resticting her to another place or the kennel is a good idea until she realises she is not the alpha dog here.
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06-24-2008
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you should just block off the bedroom or make so she is not able to get on the bed. If that doesn't work then seek other help. I does sound like she is trying to be the leader.
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06-25-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Myjack
I've been having a bed wetting dog for a couple months.
I first suspected a medical problem, but that seems to not be the problem.
Spring - my adopted doberman mix rescue dog has taken to peeing in my bed. The first couple times, she was allowed to sleep on the bed - I awoke to a wet spot. I then made her a bed on the floor next to me - I've come home from work to find a wet spot - a LARGE wet spot - not a little leak spot - always in the place I sleep on the bed. I've banished her from the bedroom entirely now and it's become a spite and defiance thing now.
In the mean time, there has been a new g/f, and a full time job. I come home at lunch daily for about 5 minutes.
I'm thinking that she should stay outside, but being a dobie - she's very much a next to me kind of dog.
Is there anything I can do, besides bannish the dog to the back yard?
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i think papper training will be great for you. her a few tips:
First, Choose a specific area of the house for your to use as toilet area, pick a area such kitchen or laundry this area are free of carpet and making easy for clean.
Place newspaper thickly in a corner of this room. Spread the newspaper area pretty big, since your pup has no idea that she's meant to go on the paper at all. Watch the dog carefully and as soon as you notice it to whimper, sniffing the ground and running in circles, bring the dog immediately the spot where you want it to do its business. When the dog goes potty in the right newspaper-covered spot, praise it lavishly, before removing the soiled paper.
Replace the newspaper and spread in a select area where your dog used as a toilet. At first, your puppy will eliminate pretty much at random on the paper. It's important for the paper-training process that she only gets to go on the paper. If your dog make an accident simply wash the area with warm water and rinse with diluted vinegar to kill the odor the dog has left.
When your dog is consistently eliminating on the newspaper start to take some pieces away until eventually it only has one or two pieces of newspaper left to wee on.
Use terms for "going potty" consistently and praise him when it goes potty on the right spot. Have treats available to give the dog rewards when it has done the right thing quite well.
Feed your dog at specific, scheduled times (for example, a meal at 8 am, 1 pm, and 7 pm) to encourage her to develop an "elimination timetable". This will help you and the dog avoid accidents during a time when it is difficult to move to its potty spot.
With this practical steps and consistency and care you could teach your dog to eliminate at the right place using paper training.
http://http://advice-for-dog-obedien...g.blogspot.com
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06-26-2008
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Good advise and resources goldendog33...Great blog too very informative...Lots of tips about training dogs...
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06-26-2008
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Bed Wetting
Okay let me clarify somethings here...
#1 Yes dogs can and will do things "in spite" of the human. They are social structured creatures and will provide behaviors to represent status, mental state, or lack of knowledge.
Peeing in the bed is a giant middle finger... your dog has the least respect for you that she possibly could.
Urinating in a human scented resting area shows domaniance and lack of trust & respect.
A lot of Pet Parents tend to make excuses for their dogs. "oh they are great, BUT" or "no they are trained, BUT..."
First you need to create a routine for everything. Bed time, feeding time, bathroom time, playtime, exercise, etc etc etc... Dogs thrive off of leadership & direction. By taking the responsibility to control and provide for the dog more consistantly is the first step.
Second, where is the crate? This dog needs to be in a crate for bed, in a crate when you are not home, in a crate when you are in the shower, in the crate whenever you possibly can not supervise. Dogs love crates. Yes maybe not at first, but trust me... she will. All of my dogs go in their crates when asked, when not asked, they love it in there. You have got to be more consistant with living situations for the dog.
By allowing a dog to sleep in the bed you are saying "okay you are equal to me" or even "you are my leader"... if you don't want this, get the dog out of the bed.
I do feel this dog is disliking the balance of the household. Fix it.
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06-28-2008
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I couldn't agree with daleigh more. I have seen a dog hate a member of the family and look for every opportunity that a bedroom door was left unlatched would defecate on top of the hated persons bed.
I'm no training whiz, but I understand dominance and this dog doesn't respect yours. Re-assert yourself, the dog may be loved but is NOT a human. Make it realize that position.
I wish you great success. I'm currently dealing with a dog that I took in at 8 mos and he was not trained and we are dealing with many bad habits. But we'll get there. I love him, but he knows that he is subordinate. Point is, I feel your pain.
Take care
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06-29-2008
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First off, congratulations on not giving up on your dog!
Is your bed the ONLY place your dog's been urinating in the house?
Whether it's a "spite" thing or not (personally I doubt it), you need to housebreak your dog. Don't stop the lessons when she's "almost housebroken" -- either she's trained or she isn't. Obviously if she's peeing in your bed, she isn't trained.
Crate training is far better than newspaper training. Think about it... how is a dog supposed to learn to hold it until she gets outside if she's allowed to pee and poop inside on newspaper whenever she wants? Newspaper training just makes the entire process more complicated.
A three-year old dog should be able to hold it all day while you're at work, after being trained to do so.
Forget the words "spite" and "dominance" and just focus on training your dog. There are plenty of great training resources online, such as the DogStarDaily.com site.
You and your dog will be happier, I promise!
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Diogi
"A Trained Mutt is a Happy Mutt!"
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06-29-2008
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My baby did that when I found a B/f...but I made sure the B/f made over him and no problem since, I think it was a jealousy thing, for he started doing it out of the blue...Guess he didn't want anyone else in "our" bed
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07-04-2008
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Stress Can Cause It
I used to have a dog who would do that. She would do it when she was stressed. She hated the crate and was not destructive other than that, so what I did was to put a waterproof something on the bed (for example, a shower curtain would work, or a waterproof mattress protector). Then at least I did not have to wash the bedding every time she did it.
Maybe it's not the best solution but...
probably better to find the cause of the stress...
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07-05-2008
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Urinating on the bed?? It's a dominance issue
First, don't put her outside. It will create anxiety and can cause many new behavior problems as she will be motivated to get your attention.
I've had many clients call me with this exact problem. In almost every case the dog believes he/she is the alpha dog or pack leader. The bed is of high value because it's usually the highest point in the room (pack leaders stay on the high ground to look over the pack) and most comfortable sleeping area which creates a high value in your dog's eyes. When they get there, they claim it as their own and mark it accordingly. Your dog is telling you that you are not the pack leader. The dog is in charge.
Now this isn't a great cause for concern if you take action now. Simply blocking the bedroom will only mask the problem. You have re-establish yourself as the top dog. This does not mean bullying or physically abusing the dog. Pack leaders are calm and assertive. They won't follow an unbalanced (angry, frustrated, ect) leader.
So start by controlling access to the dog's wants and needs. No petting, food, treats or toys without you giving them. If your dog comes over to be pet, but make him/her sit first. And your dog must earn them. A simple sit/down command will work. Make the dog hold in for 10 seconds. If they break the command, put him/her back in the sit and start again. There are a ton of nonconfrontational things you can do with feedings, games, ect in your every day life that will ork wonders. She will soon learn that you are the leader and she will gladly take up second position. Also, the new G/F should be doing the same when she is around the dog.
You mentioned that you are not home as much as you like. Well, if the pack leader is gone for extended periods of time, this will continue. I'm not suggesting ou quit your job, just establish yourself as the pack leader. This site will give you great insight into how to become the pack leader. There is a great course will books and training there. But also, read all the free articles on the site. They are written by top dog training pros (i.e. Cesar Millan). It's located at Dog Training. If nothing else, sign up for the free newsletter and tips.
Also, long walks when you are able will wor wonders. Many dog owners don't know that the walk is where the true pack heirarcy is established. Make sure the dog is calm before leaving and make sure you go through the door first (as pack leaders do). On the walk, keep a brisk pace and make sure your dog is not pulling you. If you are short on time, add a dog pack back with water bottles in it for weight. It will drain twice the amount of energy and a regular walk without it. A tired dog that understands you are the pack leader will solve almost all behavior problems. So check out the site and become the pack leader again!
Good Luck!
Chad Thompson
Behavior Modification Professional
Dog Training
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07-11-2008
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hello im just putting my 2cents
my dog used to poo and pee infront of my dads room and my dog didnt really like him. ive realized that dogs attempt to climb their social ladder. if they are given the chance they will take dominance. sure theres alot of thing we can call it. but its their way of doing it. if your dog is house broken you need to reclaim dominance in a manner of how your dog will know you're the boss. the way i did it was when supervised i would always keep her from going near that area of my dads room. i did this everytime. CONSISTENTLY like someone said above. consistency is really the key in situations like this. if you tell her no one time. and not the next its just gonna get harder.
but good luck... dont give up and persevere even if your dog seems "blonde"
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02-26-2009
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My dog is urinating on my bed too...help
My dog urinates on our bed when we are not around. So we then started closing the door when we left for the day. We also have things in front of the door like a hamper basket and his bed so that he wont dig at the carpet. Now he has figured out how to move those items out of the way and he has digged a hole almost to the concrete.
We are out of ideas...any advice?
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02-27-2009
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Originally Posted by mhaynes82
My dog urinates on our bed when we are not around. So we then started closing the door when we left for the day. We also have things in front of the door like a hamper basket and his bed so that he wont dig at the carpet. Now he has figured out how to move those items out of the way and he has digged a hole almost to the concrete.
We are out of ideas...any advice?
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Advice? Yeah. Crate.
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02-27-2009
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Our dog hasnt been in a crate for years, wont putting in a crate now for 9-10 hours a day cause other behavioral problems?
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