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Old 02-25-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Hi fellow dog Lovers, My dog is a lab german sheperd mix he is ayear old and we got him last september from the humane sociaty.hehad been in another home before going there. he has severe seperation anxiety and we got him training through bark busters and it seemed to help some but now it does nothing to control him or help. I went out and bought a crate for him to put him in when we were out and for the first 3 months he would go in when I told him and although he would bark when we left he was fine in it. Then 2 weeks ago he stopped going in like he will not go in at all if I put food or whatever and he loves food and treats but he just shakes and will not go near it. If I leave him out of it when I go out he goes from window to window and scratches at one certain cupboard and he has ripped window screens and blinds, the vet says he could put him on a pill for it but it is not a cure. Me and my wife love this dog very much and we are stressed over this problem If someone has some advice to offer we would welcome it.
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I have a German Shepherd who used to have a same problem when she was very young. Try putting the kennel in a room where you normally are in the home (like a living room) & have a hoof in the kennel as a "kennel-only" treat. You can get them at PetSmart or most pet stores for about $1 & they last for a LONG time-& safer than a rawhide for your dog. (Warning-while they are being chewed, they smell but the odor doesn't last long & leaves no scent in the carpeting/rug etc.)

If he doesn't walk in it at nights or during the weekend after those changes, you should try playing the radio while he's in it during the day. (Sometimes we turn on the TV to animal planet, but the radio is just as calming).

Don't give up on him, it will take some time to find out what makes him happy in the kennel but it will be worth the benefits & your dog will feel less stressed durign the day.
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Hello,
Thank you for your kind help. We surely will not give up. But would like to know whether your dog had seperation anxiety or does it still have it.

As Sabu has Severe seperation anxiety. But sure enoguh we will get that hoof & also keep trying.

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Jamie, Meeta & Sabu ( Woof woof).
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I would say she does not like to be left alone & will cry & stratch at the door, but she does not destroy things once alone, so she wouldn't have severe seperation anxiety, but she does get upset. I've heard it's pretty common in german shepherds & mixes of them because german shepherds think of the family as a "pack", more so than some breeds.

Since we started playing the radio though, she doesn't cry anymore but she does circle around in her kennel when she can still hear us leaving the door. If your dog's kennel is in a room with a computer, try dogcatradio.com, I know the songs are pretty unusual (old songs remade w/ lyrics about dogs/things dogs like), but they have noises dogs like to hear, like squeaky balls & barking dogs & such.

Your dog doesn't go to the restroom once in the kennel though, right?
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Sabu, does not go pee or poop in his crate he is very well trained that way he never goes in the house.I am going to try your ideas about the radio and his crate is in the same room as the computer so I will try the websight you gave me as well.This seperation anxiety the vet tells me could be caused by the fact of him being in first a home as a puppy then brought to a shelter for some time and then adopted by us. Sabu upon seeing that we are getting ready to go out ( preparing cloths, showering etc ) he becomes very upset and at that point he will not go in his crate its like he knows we are going. I tried all the things the vet has told us to do to cure him of this but it does not work,I will try the radio and computer ideas you gave me if I can get him in the crate.
Thanks Again for your Help.
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Fear of crate: Also, start feeding/watering in crate. When he is hungry enough, he will start going in there. Leaving the door open so he knows he is not trapped. Time and patience.

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i would do what waya1 said and put food and water in the crate or someting else he needs because he will have to eventually go in. This should get him used to it
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Perhaps you should start from scratch with your crate training. Here's what I recommend for crate-training puppies... it should work for your dog, as well...

Make sure the crate is big enough for your dog to be able to stand up, turn around, and lie on his side—but not so big that it gives him room to pee or poop in there without lying in it. Line the crate with a towel you’ve used or a t-shirt you’ve worn (so your scent is on it). Make the crate comfortable for your dog.

Place the crate in a quiet area, away from distractions (not too close to a window or in a high traffic area of your house), but not away from his “pack” (you and your family).

Before confining your dog to his crate, you first need to teach him to enjoy being in it. Stop feeding him from his bowl; feed him only in his crate.

Say “crate” and toss a few treats into the crate and see if he goes in to get them. Praise him if he goes inside. If he doesn’t go inside, put the treats on the lip/entrance of the crate, instead.

Gradually move treats farther into the crate until he goes all the way inside to get them. Do not close the door; let him go in and out as he pleases.

Make it a fun game by tossing treats into the crate a few times in a row, off and on throughout the day. Say “crate” whenever you want him to go in, and praise him when he does.

After he appears comfortable with the crate and eagerly runs in to get the treats, shut the door for a second after he goes in… then open it and let him out. Do that a few times. Then try shutting the door and leaving it shut as you feed him a few treats through the door. Then let him out.

The next step is to stuff a hollow chew toy (such as a Kong®) with something delicious. Let your dog sniff the stuffed chew toy and then place it in the crate. Shut the door with your dog on the outside. Usually it takes just a few seconds for your dog to beg you to open the door and let him inside. Say “crate,” let him into the crate, praise him for going inside, and shut the door. Once he’s busy licking the treat out of the chew toy, walk away. Return before he finishes licking all the goodies out of the toy, and open the door. Don’t let him take the chew toy out of the crate; take it from him.

Next, tie the freshly stuffed chew toy to the inside of the crate and leave the door open. Your dog can then choose whether he wants to remain outside or go into his crate and start licking the treat from his chew toy.

Most dogs choose to rest happily inside the crate and work on the stuffed chew toy. He may even fall asleep in there when he’s done. Close the door.

With several instances of this pre-conditioning, some dogs will quickly accept being confined in their crate at night; others will whine or bark like mad to be let out. Sometimes putting a cover over the crate will help your dog to settle down and go to sleep.

Ignore a dog's immediate whining and barking to be let out, otherwise you’ll teach him that whining and barking is the key to getting what he wants (very bad idea). Most dogs will settle down after a few minutes and go to sleep.
If he starts whining after being quiet for a while, he may need to go potty. You should take him outside, but don’t let him out of the crate as he’s whining. Wait a moment to see if his whining pauses, and then quickly open the door and take him outside. If he doesn’t pause on his own, make some sort of noise that will cause him to stop whining and listen. Then get him out right away before he starts whining again.

Do not use the crate as “punishment.” If you scold your dog and then lock him in the crate, he’ll associate the crate with being punished. You want him to think of his crate as his comfortable den—not a jail cell.

Getting your dog used to being in the crate while you're home is important in your case, as he's already associating the crate with being left alone.

Patience and persistence are the keys!

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Hi fellow dog Lovers, My dog is a lab german sheperd mix he is ayear old and we got him last september from the humane sociaty.hehad been in another home before going there. he has severe seperation anxiety and we got him training through bark busters and it seemed to help some but now it does nothing to control him or help. I went out and bought a crate for him to put him in when we were out and for the first 3 months he would go in when I told him and although he would bark when we left he was fine in it. Then 2 weeks ago he stopped going in like he will not go in at all if I put food or whatever and he loves food and treats but he just shakes and will not go near it. If I leave him out of it when I go out he goes from window to window and scratches at one certain cupboard and he has ripped window screens and blinds, the vet says he could put him on a pill for it but it is not a cure. Me and my wife love this dog very much and we are stressed over this problem If someone has some advice to offer we would welcome it.
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all the replies are exactly right. I have three dogs, husky, goldendoodle, and a maltese. You have to leave their food bowls in their cages. Take the bowls out when they are done. Also, when you bring the dog in from outside, direct him to his cage. i have the dog walk into the cage, put a treat in their cage, and say "good boy/girl". I always kept the cage by the door that the dog enters and exits. it is very important that the dog does not have to hunt for the cage when he/she enters the house.
All my dogs were extremely attached to their cages. alway give the treats inside the cage. leave to door open so they can come and go as they please when you are home. but always give food, water, treats, toys, etc into the cage area. it really works. i have two dogs over 75 pounds, and a baby maltese 6 months old. the only one in the cage is the baby, until she is fully trained then the cage will go. good luck. It takes repeated action, and always have everyone in the house follow thru on the rules that you make. It can take up to 6 months to have the dog fully trained, be patient and always compliment the dog.
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Fear of crate: Also, start feeding/watering in crate. When he is hungry enough, he will start going in there. Leaving the door open so he knows he is not trapped. Time and patience.

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Right there waya...and when time goes by he will used to it...
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