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02-17-2008
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Age for Breediing
Hi Everyone
I have a 6month old yorkiepoo, how old does he have to be before
he can breed and how old should a female be?
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02-17-2008
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OK, I'm going to be blunt. If you need to ask that question here, you shouldn't be breeding. There are to many dogs out there who have no homes because of irresponsible breeding. Minn
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02-17-2008
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I wrote a long reply to you - detailing ethical breeding and yet, this board "lost" my message. So here's the more truncated version:
First off - it sounds like you are very new to dog breeding, possibly even dog owership. I am NOT against dog breeding, but with thousands of dogs euthanzied in shelters every year and the rise of genetic problems in many dogs, breeding should be done with the greatest concern to improving the genetic health and global welfare of dogs. If your breeding cannot positively contribute to dogs, in general, then you shouldn't breed.
Well, how can you tell? One of the ways is to look at the dog you are going to breed and be extra critical of that dog's attributes and drawbacks. Most of the dogs who end up in shelters across the country are coming from well meaning people - like you - who have one or a few dogs and may only breed once or twice in their lives.
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Of the 53 million dogs in the U.S., about two-thirds come from backyard breeders. They are the single greatest cause of the pet overpopulation crisis in this country. The worst of the backyard breeders sometimes come to the attention of local animal control authorities, who may negotiate with a breeder who is keeping dogs in truly deplorable conditions to release at least some of the dogs to a shelter. Shelters then often turn to rescue groups, because they know that the dogs -- unsocialized, requiring more medical care than most shelters can afford -- will have to be euthanized.
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From your question, I can tell you need some background information about your dog. First off, do you know that there is no breed of dog called a "Yorkiepoo?" Yorkiepoos is a made-up word to market a first generation cross between a Yorkie and Poodle. Your dog is heterozygous for the traits of poodles and Yorkies. We don't know what traits your particular dog picked up from its parents - it is not necessarily a 50/50 split as genetics is a lot more complicated than that. Without a DNA test, you really can't tell. Both Poodles and Yorkies have genetic issues. A person who has specialized in breeding Yorkies for 30 years may know exactly what traits, both good and bad, are in her line - because she has spent years of careful study and genetic testing to determine that - but you have not and cannot. A breeding of your dog could have great results or disasterious results - there's no way to tell both because of your inexperience and your interest in breeding a mix breed dog.
This whole designer dog craze started with an experiment by the Australian Guide Dog Foundation. This experiment was STOPPED when it was discovered that labradoodles were coming up with skin and eye problems. The whole concept of "hybrid vigor" is a fallacy created to promote designer "doodle dogs." The biggest problem is that these dogs are being promoted by the pet shop industry that gets the bulk of their dogs from puppymills. IF you purchased your dog from a pet shop, odds are your dog comes from one of these "Establishments." Far from being from a reputable and ethical breeder, your dog had the very worst start in life, having parents who were not subject to any genetic testing and having had no early socialization.
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I wrote a longer and more detailed reply before - but I'll just say this - please do not breed your dog. You put your dog at great risk and you will just be contributing to the pet overpopulation problem. Leave breeding to those people who have dedicated their lives to it and know the lines they are breeding from.
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02-18-2008
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The 2 Dogs
I never expected to be jumped at the way I was by the 2 dogs,
minn and mightymite. I think both of you have to stop your
breeding business and get some sex of your own this might
relax you a little. LOL!!!! People like you are the type A that will
take a gun out on anyone with such anger. tsk tsk
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02-18-2008
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they are correct & in the majority. you showed your ignorance by even asking about breeding a mutt. it has nothing to do with people not liking mutts, I have 2 myself, just disgust for people that would intentionally breed them
my best guess is that you are just a troll
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02-19-2008
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I think what they are just saying is... not to breed dogs just for the sake of money... i dont want to sound judgmental but there are people out there who do stuff like that just to get some money. They even dont care about the pet health.
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02-19-2008
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Zorro, I am not a breeder. Have you really looked into what it takes to be a breeder. It's a HUGE responsibility. You really don't make any money. So why do it unless it's for the love of a breed. If you have a male dog you will never really connect with him if he is not neutered. All his life will be, is searching for a female. We can all tell that you don't get it by your responses. And your being blinded by what you want and not what's best for dogs. Take a breath, and do your research. Starting here hopefully made you think. Minn
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07-17-2008
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Is zorro ok? If you go to school and learn about dog breeding or perhaps read a full book about it, I think you might get alot more positive answers. I think there are a lot of people against ameteur dog breeders in this world, which I can appreciate. I'm from Thailand, and I see many dogs without homes, walking the streets aimlessly.
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07-17-2008
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Techinically, your dog can be bred once it has passed certification for its hips, elbows, patellas, eyes, heart, thyroid, Von Willenbrand's disease...which affects poodles.
These tests can not be done until the bitch is two years old. Then you must prove your dog in some area, other than the whelping box. Do you show, trial or hunt? Why would someone want your pups?
Breeding is very expensive, and is best left to responsible breeders who do not produce mixed breed dogs on purpose.
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07-18-2008
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This BYB isn't going to listen to anyone with sound advice...just those who are willing to support his breeding. So the best way to get rid of this troll is to not respond at all or in kind. I know you all want to help but this troll has no intention of listening as demonstrated by his rudeness.
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07-22-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zoro2007
Hi Everyone
I have a 6month old yorkiepoo, how old does he have to be before
he can breed and how old should a female be?
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So you want to breed with a MUTT???
Don't breed at all. Get him fixed.
Purebreds need to be at least 2 years old (males and females) and have had proper health tests, be titled (or have a pedigree with titles), be a wonderful example of the breed, etc.
Your dog will NEVER be, nor have, any of these things.
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