[GreedyBYB]

I have read so many posts where people bad mouth anyone who breeds dogs for profit I thought I would post a little info about what its like to BE a BYB and why I do it.

I am disabled with 6 herniated disc, degenerative joint disease, and diabetes. I am a single parent. I do not get disability, child support or any other means of income. I have tried everything to make money so that me and my son can live. I even had my electricity turned off in the middle of winter because I couldn't pay the bill and could get NO help anywhere and believe me I tried everything imaginable. NO ONE CARES. When you have a child to take care of you do what you have to do to take care of them. THAT is why I started raising dogs.

Now don't get me wrong. I LOVE my dogs. I take very good care of them. They are not caged, they live in the house with me and my son and have a huge 1/2 acre fenced yard to run and play in. I keep them wormed and vaccinated and don't sell my pups until they are 8 weeks old. They are all very well socialized and treated like family. I make them sweaters and bandanas to wear and they are very happy.

Everyone is so fast to condemn me for breeding dogs for a profit but every time I have puppies to sell, they all sell usually within 2 days of offering them because there are always people wanting to buy a puppy and no amount of bashing and badmouthing the breeder is going to make people stop buying puppies. Look at all the publicity out there right now about puppy mills yet that doesn't stop people from buying from them and it never will.

There is nothing you can say to me that will make any difference because bottom line is....I have to take care of myself and my son in the only way I know how. Period.

[Minn]

There are so many dog's that need rescue. Thats where my problem is with breeding for profit. It's really selfish. And if you can breed and take care of puppies you can find a job. I can't beleive that selling dogs can bring in the kind of money to take care of a family. minn

[GreedyBYB]

Originally Posted by Minn

There are so many dog's that need rescue. Thats where my problem is with breeding for profit. It's really selfish. And if you can breed and take care of puppies you can find a job. I can't beleive that selling dogs can bring in the kind of money to take care of a family. minn

I only get enough to pay my electric and internet and buy a few necessities (toilet paper, soap cleaning supplies etc... and dog food/supplies). I don't have a car. I used to work for a veterinarian for years and can do most everything for my dogs that they need and have a very good veterinarian who works with me as far as payments etc should I need him for anything major. I only have a few dogs tho, nothing large scale. As far as my "being able to work if I can care for my dogs"....If you MUST know, not only do I have the problems listed in my first post but I am also incontinent of bowel AND bladder. I sit on a gardeners stool with wheels and scoot around to get things done. It is a struggle but I manage as I HAVE to. I have no choice. I would LOVE to have a work at home job over the internet etc but all that I have found ask for money to start and it is an established fact that is a SCAM. By all means, if you can hook me up with a legitimate work at home job that I can do here on my pc, feel free.

I agree with all of you as far as puppy mills go. They are horrible. They dogs are not cared for or socialized and disposed of without a second thought. They SHOULD be shut down. I love pets/animals of all kinds and if they aren't taken care of people shouldn't be allowed to have them.

I love my dogs. I truly do, they are my family, my friends, my companions. I love on my little puppies and treat them like my own babies and it is VERY hard to let them go when it is time to sell them. But I do it because I have to.
My son is begging me right now to keep a little tiny male puppy that he just adores but I can't, that puppy will pay my electric bill for one month. Sad, but true.

[simbasdog]

i really cant believe this post,it almost feels as a windup,much like the posters name.
i think this poster should be more specific and go into more detail on the breed,breeds used, how often are the dogs bred , are they registered,and also the temperament and physical values of the sire and dam ie ,breed standard.

[GreedyBYB]

Originally Posted by simbasdog

i really cant believe this post,it almost feels as a windup,much like the posters name.
i think this poster should be more specific and go into more detail on the breed,breeds used, how often are the dogs bred , are they registered,and also the temperament and physical values of the sire and dam ie ,breed standard.

What difference does it make really? I breed for money. Regardless of what type breed, registration, etc....In YOUR eyes I am nothing but a Greedy BYB, thus, my screenname. I am not stupid. I knew before I posted what kind of reaction people like YOU would give. It's no windup. It's a FACT. All of you always are quick to bash, flame and judge people when they post asking valid questions. I have gone back through the postings and seen questions asked where NOT ONE OF YOU bothered to answer. Well, since you obviously get your kicks by sitting there all high and mighty, flaming others who don't live life to YOUR standards, here is your chance to flame away at someone who couldn't care less. Knock yourself out. Bottom line is, like the people I tried getting help from who didn't care....I no longer care. I will do whatever I have to do to raise my child. It's as simple as that. Take it how you want to.

[Minn]

No one called you stupid, and you are Greedy admitted by yourself. Ask a question and I am sure we will answer. But using dogs as ho's to make money when you can work, really is not cool. There are to many dog's that need homes,why create more. And like I stated before I can't believe you make enough to raise a family. Do you check out these buyers, do you go to there homes, references etc? If you love these puppies it's the least you could do. And if you do then you can find a job. I will not respond to anymore of your post. I find it pointless. Minn

[GreedyBYB]

Originally Posted by Minn

No one called you stupid, and you are Greedy admitted by yourself. Ask a question and I am sure we will answer. But using dogs as ho's to make money when you can work, really is not cool. There are to many dog's that need homes,why create more. And like I stated before I can't believe you make enough to raise a family. Do you check out these buyers, do you go to there homes, references etc? If you love these puppies it's the least you could do. And if you do then you can find a job. I will not respond to anymore of your post. I find it pointless. Minn

Actually I didn't admit anything about being greedy, I read through all your the posts here on this forum and saw that term thrown around alot in reference to anyone who breeds for profit. I breed for profit so therefore, I must be greedy right? Of course forget the fact that I take good care of my dogs and see to their needs and health. Forget the fact that if I chose to, I could breed on a large scale and make a lot more money,yet I choose to only make enough to get the necessities of life. No frills, no splurging. I just want to take care of myself and my son. There are a lot of dogs and puppies that need good homes yes, as there are cats, horses, you name it.

What prompted me to post in the first place was when reading through posts here from other people asking questions and seeing harsh rude answers such as "If you have to ask that question, you have no business breeding" etc... really irks me. Everyone has to ask questions and learn, even the experts didn't know ANYTHING until they researched and asked questions and educated themselves, which is what people come here to try and do and instead get flamed and bashed because they want to be a dog breeder. You mean if you are not already an EXPERT dog breeder then you can't learn to be one? Give me a break.

You start out small, you take baby steps and you learn the basics. It is a learning experience and you NEVER learn it all. Even the EXPERTS don't know it all. No one does. How can people sit there behind a computer screen and put down others and bash them when they have the RIGHT to pursue whatever hobby or career they choose to do?

People have the RIGHT to live their life the way they choose. Personally, I care more about stopping this...Children for sale - Dateline NBC - MSNBC.com
and this....Global Sex Slavery
than I do stopping people from breeding dogs or any other animal.
If people spent their time and energy on stopping things like that instead of sitting online bashing people for what they do for a living, they just might be able to make a difference in the life of a child who desperately needs it. The world is a horrible place.

[Yogi]

I am not agreeing or disagreeing for your reason for breeding but I do take question at your remark that you have 6 herniated discs, degenerative joint disease and diabetes and you claim you cannot get any financial support but food stamps. It is a fact that if you live in the US you are eligible for Welfare from you local state in addition due to the fact that you have an illness or disease that will prevent you from working substantially for at least a year your are eligible for SSI (Social Security Supplememtal Insurance). This is tax payor paid program subsidized by the govt and not to be confused with Social Security Full term disability. For you to be receiving food stamps implies that you must have some source of income which if you listed this income as your dogs and sale of puppies which puts your income below a certain level than I am confused as you state that due to no income you are a breeder and this is the only reason you are. Yet if you are not breeding for the income than there is no reason you would not qualify for the program noted.
The discs in my back are not herniated but are in fact degenerative, in addition to my shoulder joints. Cardiac patient as well as diagnosed with neuropathy and rheumatoid arthritis. I worked for myself so when the Dr told me I could no longer work I had no choice but to file for welfare and at that time they started the process for my SSI which is currently being processed.
I am in fact a breeder though hardly anymore. I was one for over 47 years and did not make a dime doing so as the cost of real care for my dogs and the offspring basically covered their expenses. On average I was left owing my vets from $1.k to $2.k a year. These days the ones I have are predominately rescues less a couple breeders. Too young at this point and to be truthful I do not know with my medical condition if I will consider it again.

[GreedyBYB]

Originally Posted by Yogi

I am not agreeing or disagreeing for your reason for breeding but I do take question at your remark that you have 6 herniated discs, degenerative joint disease and diabetes and you claim you cannot get any financial support but food stamps. It is a fact that if you live in the US you are eligible for Welfare from you local state in addition due to the fact that you have an illness or disease that will prevent you from working substantially for at least a year your are eligible for SSI (Social Security Supplememtal Insurance). This is tax payor paid program subsidized by the govt and not to be confused with Social Security Full term disability. For you to be receiving food stamps implies that you must have some source of income which if you listed this income as your dogs and sale of puppies which puts your income below a certain level than I am confused as you state that due to no income you are a breeder and this is the only reason you are. Yet if you are not breeding for the income than there is no reason you would not qualify for the program noted.
The discs in my back are not herniated but are in fact degenerative, in addition to my shoulder joints. Cardiac patient as well as diagnosed with neuropathy and rheumatoid arthritis. I worked for myself so when the Dr told me I could no longer work I had no choice but to file for welfare and at that time they started the process for my SSI which is currently being processed.
I am in fact a breeder though hardly anymore. I was one for over 47 years and did not make a dime doing so as the cost of real care for my dogs and the offspring basically covered their expenses. On average I was left owing my vets from $1.k to $2.k a year. These days the ones I have are predominately rescues less a couple breeders. Too young at this point and to be truthful I do not know with my medical condition if I will consider it again.

Let me rephrase that...I USED to get food stamps. I couldn't get any help and started breeding dogs and no longer get them. A misleading typo on my part, my apologies. Nice they started SSI for you, in my state they do NOTHING to help you. You have to do it all yourself and I am working on that. Meanwhile we have to eat and have electricity......

I don't expect anyone to agree with me, I just wanted to make it known what circumstances prompted me to be a breeder, sometimes it's not a question of greed, it's a question of survival.

[Bobbijean]

Your first and foremost responsibility is to you and your child. And nobody has the right to tell you how to do it.

I know how you feel I breed to pay the dogfood bill. and for fun. and sometimes to pay the gas bill.

I applaud the fact you can do something to help you and your family. Listening to you, it is obvious to me you care about your animals and are not a mill.

Take care of yourself

Bobbi:mrgreen: