[puppyluvin]

You guys are mean! Please don't say that breeding without testing and etc. is mean! Your behaviors are intentional and I believe that hers intentions were good and she was simply unaware....My parents breed Collies for years and yes they were tested and were of high quality!I have worked with several vets that didn't even educate people, who would bring in a puppy with the intention of breeding it! Most people go to their vet for answers and education and most vets encourage spaying and neutering the pet but fail to set out a clear description of how things should be done!

Most books give varying information so...if you were not someone who knew about breeding from a breeder...That is if a breeder would even be willing to tell you anything b/c they are threatened. You would be unaware of everything that is involved too!

Please remember you should treat people with as much love and compassion as you do your dogs!

[Lara's mom]

Nobody here is "mean." The people on this forum love dogs. Those who breed here, do so responsibly with the exception of a tiny minority. Far too many young dogs end up at shelters or are euthanized due to genetic flaws and behavioural issues because "wannabe breeders" saw dollar signs in their eyes and couldn't have been bothered to research and gain the extensive amount of knowledge necessary to ensure that they will produce healthy and well adjusted puppies and aren't prepared to have them tested to ensure that they are selling the healthiest puppies possible.

When it comes to shoddy breeders vs. dogs, we'll be on the side of the dogs EVERY time. I'm sorry you didn't like the answers you heard but, a very famous lawyer once said, "Never ask a question unless you a) already know the answer or, b) are absolutely sure that you want to know the answer." Nobody in this forum has any sort of mandate to tell someone what they want to hear.

[puppyluvin]

You automatically assume that she is doing it for money......hhhmmmm! The problem is actually bigger than the scale you are using to analyze this world wide problem!
The education process lies with the individual but when they turn to the professional(which is what you would do in any similar situation) and they don't discourage the idea unless the process is done correctly. Where is their responsibility??? How come no one on this so... highly educated site did not reach out to her in kindness offering to coach her through it if she was going to pursue breeding?

You actually had a great opportunity to teach someone the right way to do it and instead the claws came out....Shame on you for not taking your cause more seriously!

[puppyluvin]

Originally Posted by puppylove2009

Do not breed your dogs.....yet.

I say this because your female is too young. Atleast wait until she is two years old.

Get all the proper genetic and health testing done (This is very important....my dog came from a breeder who didn't do this....he is not healthy. He is a year old and already cost us thousands in vet bills)

If this happens with your dogs it may come back on you. Just realize that.

Do some research and get a mentor (you can find that with your local breed club) Study under your mentor until the mentor deems you ready. It shouldn't take long. And do lots of research.

When you mentor decides you are ready and you are doing this to better the breed....then go for it.

Also make sure your dogs are registered with a reputable breed club (AKC- american Kennell club, UKC- United Kennell Club, or CKC-Canadian Kennel club. Do not get a CKC contenental kennel club dog.....that CKC is a joke)


Good luck on your journey. If you do this and do it right breeding will be very rewarding.

Remember wait until she is atleast 2 years old.

Good Luck.



This isn't a personal attack or anything: I'm just giving you the proper way to go about this....if you do it this way you will get a rewarding feeling because you are working to better your breed of choice and you are breeding for quality puppies.

I have a purebred minature poodle (who is not the healthiest) and I have an adopted rescued mix both are my pride and joy.

I encourage responsible breeding......and I think you still have a bit to learn. But you will get there if you do it right.

Just please think about what I said

Puppylove 2009

I love your response and kudos to you for encouraging her and educating her in a way that might actually get her attention and get you heard! I love the fact that you even pointed her in the right direction!

Way to go!!:mrgreen:

[Lara's mom]

Go back and read the original post. The poster did not ask for the opinions of the breeders in this forum, most of which are top notch, one sensible question. Despite that fact, she was given VERY good information.

a) Her bitch is too young to breed to begin with.
b) Preparing the mother and whelping a litter of puppies requires a degree of expertise that you need to gain by hands on training from a reputable breeder and doing a great deal of research.
C) Raising a litter of pups is very expensive. Apart from what it would cost if the pups became ill, there are multiple visits to the vet, vaccines, in some cases tail docking and dew claw removal, etc.
d) Her dogs have not been tested for genetic flaws so, she has no idea what exactly she is breeding.


I could go on but I'm hoping you get the idea. Nowhere did she mention if her dogs were a spectacular example of their breed. She didn't mention whether they had received their championships which leads me to believe they did not.

The whole idea of breeding pure bred dogs - if you are reputable and responsible is to improve the breed. Good breeders don't make much if anything in the way of a profit. In fact, when all is said and done, they are often "in the hole!" They do it for the love of their chosen breed.

There has been more suffering and heartache caused by "backyard breeders" than I have the energy to explain to you. I'm speaking about puppies that are born with genetic conditions, are sold as show quality when they are not, etc. Don't even get me started about the behavioural issues.

You can argue until the stars fall from the sky and I will stand behind what she was told because it is correct. If you go to the breeders section of the forum, there is an excellent post regarding exactly what is involved in this process. I believe it's called, "So, you want to breed." If you put the words "want to breed" into that section, it will come up in the threads. It will explain what I'm trying to explain to you far better than I ever could.

[puppyluvin]

If someone is in your face but offering words of wisdom...Will you hear those words of wisdom? NO!! It is all of our responsibility to treat each other with respect....Is all I am trying to get across and you will help this cause more if you interact with people in a kind and helpful manner.

Just so you know I don't need a lesson in breeding...I am a Veterinarian and have seen my share! I believe it is all our responsibility to bring awareness and please try to do it in a way that is most likely to get you heard. It is not about your voice or how you feel but how to best encourage the action you want to see happen!

Good luck to you all!

[Lara's mom]

As a veterinarian, you should understand better than anyone why we discourage people who don't know what the hell they're doing from breeding litters of puppies. You must have seen the result of poor breeding in your practice.

[Lunareclipse]

Unless your dogs are proven champions, what is the point of breeding them? The point of breeding is to better the breed, not make a quick buck. I just adopted my 3rd dog fromt he shelter last weekend. Do you know or even care how many dogs are there? And you want to add to the population?