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Old 05-15-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Hi my friend is planning of breeding her boxer female to a male boxer and they both share the same father and their mothers are cousins, and im not all for it. what will likely go wrong, also this male boxer also has only one destical that is desended and the other is in his groin will this be past on the puppies?
 
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this is too close of a lineage to breed to each other and yes, a dog with one testy should never breed.
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Your friend has a lot more work to be done before ever considering breeding her dog.

First off, health and genetic testing. Submitting X-rays of both dog's hips to OFA to check for hip dysplasia. Blood tests on both dogs for brucellosis. Eyes checked for PRA. And testing for any other genetic disorders common in the breed, if such testing is available.

Then both dogs should be carefully evaluated as to how well they measure up to the breed standard. Just having papers (if they do) does not guarantee that either dog has qualities that should be passed on to future generations. In fact, most don't.

Any degree of inbreeding should only be done after careful study of the lines, and full understanding of what can happen. It's not totally tabu, but you really need to know what you're doing, or you can end up with horrible results.

Then there's the financial aspect. Does your friend have money put aside to pay for a c-section, should it be necessary? Is there money for the necessary vet checks, both before and after the puppies are born? And don't forget vaccinations, and all that extra food Mom and the pups are going to require. And God forbid, but what if the bitch dies? It can, and does happen.

What if, at 6 weeks of age, the puppies break with Parvo. That can happen, too. You put all that time and money into producing this litter, and watch one or two die every day, until you have none.

Are there homes lined up for these puppies? What if one or more of the puppies don't sell? What will happen to them?

There's a lot more to breeding dogs than just sticking a male and female together and waiting 9 weeks.
 
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I am in total agreement with Vetgroomer. I spent over 10 years researching before I EVER bred a litter, please make sure your friend gets the appropriate tests done on her dogs and does a lot more research.

What happens if she sells/gives a puppy to somebody and it developes hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia, a heart defect, cataracts or some other medical problem. How will she handle it? How about if a dog from the litter bites somebody and gets returned to her? These are all things to think about.
 
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Hi I think that my two ...er cross poodle brother and sister have bred together and I'm really worried firstly because I have no idea how to deal with new born puppies and also what could happen to my dog and her puppies because they are inbred. It was an accident and I'm also worried about what the vet will think. What do I do???
 
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Hi I think that my two ...er cross poodle brother and sister have bred together and I'm really worried firstly because I have no idea how to deal with new born puppies and also what could happen to my dog and her puppies because they are inbred. It was an accident and I'm also worried about what the vet will think. What do I do???
Don't worry about what the vet will think. A vets major concern should be the health and well being of your dog. And we all understand that accidents happen.

Take your dog to the vet and get her examined. Find out if she's pregnant, and get expert advice on how to manage a pregnancy and whelping. We all mention the "what ifs" because we want people to be aware, and prepare for emergencies. But that doesn't mean your girl is doomed. Just be aware and be prepared.

And while you're at the vet's, make an appointment to get your male neutered, and plan on spaying your female ASAP after she whelps. Then you'll never have to worry about it again. You also won't have to worry about some of the health issues intact dogs can have.
 
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Depending on when they bred your vet may be able to abort the litter and spay her now, which from what you are telling us may not be a bad idea as you are so unsure of how to care for them and so affraid of what can happen (with good reason). If it is very early on she can be spayed now and avoid the whole problem. Best of Luck, let us know how it all works out.
 
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Back to anna007:
Undescended testes are a genetic issue and should not be passed on to another generation regardless of how close the line breeding is. That should be the first consideration in breeding with this male, not necessarily the linebreeding, which is also too close to consider.
Genetic predispositions are multiplied when linebreeding and this genetic flaw will most assuredly show it's ugly head again in the next generations.
We should be breeding to improve a breed not multiplying it's problems.
You are correct in questioning this pairing, and it never should have happened. You are not the one responsible, yet the delemma remains... what to do about it. The deed has been done. Can you approach this breeder and make a difference for future generations? Is it possible to abort from this pairing?
Responsible breeding is not just for the brave and wealthy. It shold be for all.
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I do not believe this! How irresponsible can anybody be? Is he in it for the money or, is he just stupid?
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