I have a neighbor who has a few intact dogs which are intact as they are show/working dogs. One of her bitches is in heat right now (and she is taking care to keep her very separate from her males) another of her bitches who came out of heat about 2 months ago and is not in heat (she's pretty obvious when she's in heat) was out playing in the yard and one of the males mounted and successfully tied with her. She (the bitch) was trying to get him off/get away but he overpowered her while my neighbor was running across the yard screaming at him by the time she got there they were tied. Now the dog is about 85lbs lean to the bitches maybe 35 fat she told me the bitch was biting the male and screaming but that she got her calmed down and waited for them to separate. The bitch through out the whole thing was whimpering, drooling heavily, and pushing by the time the male was done and they separated the bitch wouldn't stand, was drooling even more heavily, and as soon as they separated the bitch pushed out a decent amount of blood and has continued to bleed and act very uncomfortable, drooling, doesn't want to lift her rear end, rolling around etc. I'm worried about internal damage especially because the bitch wasn't in heat and there is a HUGE size difference. She said the dog's I LOVE DOGS!I LOVE DOGS!I LOVE DOGS!I LOVE DOGS!I LOVE DOGS! was easily felt and was a good halfway up to her last rib maybe more. She said she made them lay down to take some pressure off as the bitch's rear was lifted totally off the ground when they were standing.

I told her to take her in to the vet but a breeder friend said give it a few days and because her vet is not in today so she is wanting to wait and see and at least put it off until tomorrow or the next day when he is in. What should I do what are the possibilities she has severe and life threatening damage? OMG I feel so bad for her! She is such a submissive dog I'm sure that is why she stood there thinking he was just 'dominance humping' her What do I tell this person to make her take the bitch in! What all could be wrong?!

Sorry for the fail post I know how much it sucks to read these things!

Unfortunately there isn't much YOU can do. It's not your dog. But she could have some severe internal tearing, and it's possible she could bleed out by the time the owner gets around to taking her to the vet. She should have gone IMMEDIATELY.

I don't understand how any so called breeder would advise anything else. Even if the bleeding stops and there's not a whole lot of internal damage, the risk of infection, especially pyometra, are extremely high. And pyo can be deadly.

I'd also take that rapist dog to the vet, and have him neutered!

This is a horrible story, and this woman should be charged!
Please change this title? The bitch was not bred, she was mated, and she is a bitch, not a dog.
Sorry to be pedantic, but it is misleading.

Originally Posted by jabberwocky

This is a horrible story, and this woman should be charged!
Please change this title? The bitch was not bred, she was mated, and she is a bitch, not a dog.
Sorry to be pedantic, but it is misleading.

Well, if you want to get that technical... bred and mated are synonyms. They mean the same thing. But, IMO, this wasn't breeding or mating. It was rape.

And dog/bitch. Dog means both domestic canine and male domestic canine. There's absolutely nothing incorrect about referring to a bitch as a dog... meaning domestic canine.

It's no different than people calling mares horses. Horse can be used both ways, too. A male equine, or any equine. And I've never heard of anyone saying they're going mareback riding.

[Lara's mom]

Why must we refer to female dogs as "bitches"?

Originally Posted by Lara's mom

Why must we refer to female dogs as "bitches"?

Because that is the proper word for a female dog. The better question should be "Why must we refer to nasty female humans as "bitches"? The use of bitch to refer to a female dog predates it's use as an insult.

[QUOTE=vetgroomer;68823]Well, if you want to get that technical... bred and mated are synonyms. They mean the same thing. But, IMO, this wasn't breeding or mating. It was rape.

Well, perhaps we will just have to put it down to the difference between American and UK english, and leave it at that.
When used in this context, a bitch would never be called a dog, and mated and bred, I beg to differ, are not synonyms.
Here, we would refer to a bitch as being mated when she has been covered, but would never call it bred unless the mating were successful and the bitch pregnant.
Perhaps, also, I may be lacking in experience, I have been breeding for only 10 years, but I have never heard of canine rape, nor know anyone who has ever heard of it, and that includes my vet, who is a breeder of Dobermanns, and a highly respected fertility and reproductive expert.

I suppose what I am saying is that this sounds like trolling to me, I don't see the purpose of this post at all other than to upset caring people with sensationalism, but I am open to contradiction on that score.

Originally Posted by jabberwocky

Well, perhaps we will just have to put it down to the difference between American and UK english, and leave it at that.
When used in this context, a bitch would never be called a dog, and mated and bred, I beg to differ, are not synonyms.
Here, we would refer to a bitch as being mated when she has been covered, but would never call it bred unless the mating were successful and the bitch pregnant.
Perhaps, also, I may be lacking in experience, I have been breeding for only 10 years, but I have never heard of canine rape, nor know anyone who has ever heard of it, and that includes my vet, who is a breeder of Dobermanns, and a highly respected fertility and reproductive expert.

You're referring to the vernacular; the lexicon used by dog breeders. I am referring to the technical definitions of the words. Look them up in a dictionary and/or thesaurus.

As far as rape goes, if she says no, be it human or dog, it's rape. No, a dog does not rape for the same reasons a human does. But she wasn't willing. It was rape.

I am new here and really concerned with happened with this poor dog so I sent a PM to her and hope that she gets back to us. Like I told her, I will forever wander what happened to her. I hope nothing serious.