[PukieTheClown]

hello all, I am interested in dog breeding and am doing my initial research at the moment. I dont plan on actually starting for close to a year.

One of my questions is about inbreeding. How far apart for inbreeding is allowable? I am looking at breeding Presa Canarios and my research has shown that the majority of dogs seems to come from one or two lines originally. So how far back is acceptable?

I also am wondering if anyone can refer me to some reputable online courses. I can google it myself but I am looking more for one that is known to be recognized.

[cigwyllt]

I don't know but I just wanted to say that I wish more people took the time to research and study before breeding. Well done.

One other thing you can do alongside reading and studying would be to find a breeder locally (your breed if possible) and ask him/her to mentor you. There is no substitute for hands on experience and some one at hand for you to call on should the need arise.

[Yogi]

Sorry, but researching and planning on breeding some time in a year is in no way sufficient time to determine inbreeding. This is a rare and specialized field that requires understanding of genetics that you are not going to learn in a year. Leave this to the professionals who have years under their belts. Line breeding is risky enough.

[PukieTheClown]

I am not trying to be a professional in the field of inbreeding. I am only interested in learning the basics so I dont buy a dog with mental and medical deficiencies due to inbreeding.

[Yogi]

If that is the case, you only need to know how to read the pedigree of a reputable registered purebred. As for reputable online courses, there are none.
As there is no reputable online course for a woman to get pregnant and knows how to deal with pre and post birth. This is what trained professionals with years of study and experience are there for. Sorry, you will not be ready in a year to be a breeder. Until you have watched and been involved with the whelping process of several litters at the side of a mentor, a book will not teach you the hands on portion and excusing the internet for fear of getting up and going to a library with the real sources are located will get you no where near being qualified. I have been rescuing, breeding and raising dogs and cats for over 50 years and I still learn something new each day and it comes from other breeders like myself. There is no short cut to being a reputable breeder and no reputable breeder would ever consult the internet as a source of hot to be a breeder.

[PukieTheClown]

Thanks for not helping at all. I do believe there are courses that teach different methods how to train a dog for certain things or various other facts about dog breeding. I never said I haven't been involved with the process before. In fact I've been around for a few litters from start to finish when I was younger, but that was with a considerably more popular breed (german shepherd) than what im interested in and there wasnt concern with inbreeding. This person also did the initial training and upbringing for RCMP police dogs and I have been around and learned from that as well and also participate in the police dog quarry program. I also have trained my last dog for search and rescue as well as oil line leak detection. I'm not looking for a fight on a dog breeders forum, I merely wish to gain MORE information and hear about others experiences. I may not be ready to start in a year and if I don't think I am then I won't but that's the minimum goal I have set to purchase my first dog.

[Yogi]

Explain to me where in your original post you stated online teaching of anything pertaining to "training". You clearly stated "breeding" and no, there is no "reputable" online site for this since any reputable breeder knows there is no way to teach breeding without hands on.
To note, this is NOT a dog breeders forum. It is a general dog forum. In addition, your original post does not state anything about asking for others peoples experience in dog breeding. You specifically asked about inbreeding and you were given an answer. If you have had experience with breeding, as you note than you should already know the answer to your question. If you do not than you need to be open to the answers you get, whether they are what you want to hear or not. There are a few of us here who have a great deal of experience in breeding, and in each case you will be told you are not going to learn it on the internet. It is not like taking a math or history course.

[PukieTheClown]

Well, I guess there is no point posting, if I want to know something I'll message yogi directly for ALL the answers. Thanks!

[Lunareclipse]

Yogi is a reputable breeder of 40 years. What he is saying is correct. You need lots of hands on experience for proper breeding. There is absolutely no reason for you to act immature just because you didn't get the answers you wanted to hear. Go to your local shelter and see if any more dogs need to be bred. I am not in any way bashing breeding, but hate to see irresponsible breeders and people who want to breed just because they have two dogs and they think puppies would be cute. Listen to Yogi. He does offer good advice. And he's not going to sugarcoat things either. Reputable breeding requires a lot of research and a lot of hard work so people can have good, healthy, even tempered animals. There is no good online breeding research available. Go to a reputable breeder and listen to what they have to say. You'll probably get the same answer Yogi gave you.

[Lara's mom]

I agree with Luna 100%. Yogi knows what he's talking about. You'd be wise to listen to him instead of "getting into a snit."

[angiesample]

Before u decide to breed please remember that for every puppy that is born 10 dogs get euthanized because of overpopulation.