[AmandaJones621]

Hi. I'm new to this...I have a pure bread female rottweiler puppy, about 7 months old or so, and I am trying to find out how to breed her. I have her papers and everything but I just dont know how to find another pure bread rottie or how the whole breeding situation works. Do you pay the owner of the other dog up front for it and thats it or do they receive half of the proffits of the puppies? Please help.

[reeskujo]

First of all you're not even close to having the most remote idea of what is involved in being a responsible and ethical breeder...Breeding is not something you can simply learn from a book. Those of us here who breed or have bred spent at least 1-2 years mentoring with another responsible breeder so that we also got hands on experience..Just because a dog has AKC papers does not mean that dog is within the breed standard and would produce quality puppies, it simply means the dog is purebred..A female should never be bred before the age of 2yr.s old as they are not done developing either physically or emotionally..Not to mention that she needs to have her hips and elbows x-rayed and scored and this can't be done until the age 2..You also have to have the proper genetic health testing done to be sure she does not carry the genes for any of the health issues Rotties are prone to..Were your puppies parents genetically tested?..Were their hips and elbows scored?..Were they titled?

As for profit you can forget about that..When breeding is done responsibly there is no profit to be made as the money goes right back into the care of the mother and puppies..Not to mention a minimum of $2,000 needs to be set aside for an emergency c-section as well as the fact that genetic testing and having hips and elbows x-rayed and scored is very expensive..As a responsible and ethical Akita breeder I can tell you that no responsible male Rottie owner would not consider for a minute studding out to you without the things I've listed being done and this is really the minimum that needs to be done.Responsible breeding is not done for the sake of having puppies and making money..That is what is known as backyard breeding..It is done for the love and betterment of the breed both in the physical sense as well as with temperment..

You have absolutely no idea what you're wanting to get into and with all of the puppies in shelters being euthanized because of this very thing my suggestion to you is to have her spayed and let her enjoy her life!

[AmandaJones621]

You r right i dont have the slightest clue which is why I asked. I paid $1830.00 for my dog from Petland...she came from a registered breeder so im sure her parents were genetically tested...I have all her paperwork including her certificate of pedigree which has her parents info, her grand parents info, great grands and so on...and i am aware of the fact that she is too young to have a litter of puppies.

[reeskujo]

SERIOUSLY!!!!...Do you have any idea where petstores get their puppies?...PUPPY MILLS!!!...Responsible and ethical breeders DO NOT sell their puppies to petstores!!! Also just because a breeder is registered and the puppies are AKC registered does NOT mean they are quality pups or up to breed standard..It's also not very responsible to just assume the testing was done on your pups parents and considering the breeder sold them to a puppy store I can guarantee you they were not tested nor were their hips done...Also just because you have papers that has the name of your pups parents means absolutely nothing other then they are purebred..

There is no way anyone who knows anything about puppy mills would consider breeding to a dog that comes from a petstore and I'm really sorry to tell you this but you paid close to triple what your pup is worth...A price like that is for a puppy who comes from champion bloodlines,has no genetic or temperment faults in it's bloodline and is a show quality pup..The petstore marks up the actual price they paid the puppy mill anywhere from 2-4 times the amount they paid for it!!

Again,papers aren't worth the paper they're printed on for anything more then proof that the puppy is purebred..I really suggest you get her spayed and not take the chance of anything genetic being passed on to a litter she would produce and for the record unless you personally saw the breeders license from the Dept. of Agriculture you have no way of knowing if they're registered and even if they are that still does not mean genetic testing or hip and elbow scores were done as it's not a license requirement but simply something that we as responsible breeders do to ensure healthy good quality puppies..Puppy mills barely give their dogs and puppies the most basic of care and they certainly are not going to cut into their profits to do this type of testing!!!



BTW, Petland is one of the worst petstore chains around..They are notorious for not only buying unhealthy as well as inbred puppy mill puppies but have also been in trouble time and time again for not properly caring for their puppies..The county over from me bans them from selling any puppies or kittens for that matter!!!

Petland: The HSUS Investigations : The Humane Society of the United States

Pet store chain linked to puppy mills - Health - Pet health - msnbc.com

‪Petland Investigation: Pet Store Sells Puppy Mill Dogs‬‏ - YouTube
The Petland Puppy Mills Update: From In Defense of Animals | Thoughts Fur Paws


Petland Uses Puppy Mills - The Consumerist



These are just a few links about Petland and how they get their puppies from puppy mills and this was only part of the first page!!!

[cigwyllt]

My knowledge of breeding is theoretical but I have seen many people suffer heartbreak from buying pet store dogs. Please do the kindest thing and have her spayed.

[Lunareclipse]

Please do the shelters in your area a favor and get your dog fixed. I have no clue why you buy a dog from Petland. You could have gone to a reputable breeder and paid the same ammount for a PROVEN show quality dog that has had all required tests done. REputable breeders that have the required tests done are happy to show you the results. Just because you paid almost 2 grand for a dog from Petland doesn't mean you got a purebred dog. There is a chocolate lab that goes to our dog park. The people bought him from Petland and he has papers. But you can tell he isn't purebred and he looks like he might have some husky in him. They had a saint bernard at Petland too. It was $1600 and it had so many faults that there was no way it came from an ethical breeder. An ethical breeder would NEVER sell to a pet store. If you bought your dog and thought that you would get the money back by breeding it, you are in for a rude awakening. It costs almost $2000 for the proper tests to be done on your dog before it can be bred. Your dog should only be bred in order to improve upon the breed. Is your dog and outstanding specimen of it's breed? Have you shown your dog and gotten CH titles for it? Due to the economy, a record number of dogs are being dumped at shelters, even purebreds. 2/3 of the dogs bred will end up at a shelter. 1/3 will get put to sleep. So if your dog has 12 puppies, 8 will end up in a shelter and 4 will get euthanized. Before you even think about breeding, you need to think about what you will do if nobody buys all of your puppies or if people want to return their dogs. An ethical breeder is responsible for all life it produces and takes any and all puppies back from people that they sold the puppies to. Responsible breeders make sure that the dog is still with the original owners many years after they bought the dog. The most responsible owner makes sure that none of the pups they breed end up in shelters and rescues.

Do you have a plan to make sure that none of those puppies you are planning on breeding will ever end up in a shelter and get put to sleep?

One more thing before you breed. Go to your local shelter on a day they euthanize and see a whole litter of puppies or some really great dogs that used to be someone's pet get put to sleep because there aren't enough homes for them. Purebred rotties and rottie mixes are amung the top dogs to get euthanized, next to the bully breeds.

[AliasAussies]

Amen reeskujo

[nattiej1976]

Originally Posted by AmandaJones621

You r right i dont have the slightest clue which is why I asked. I paid $1830.00 for my dog from Petland...

WTF????? $1830.00 for a dog from a petstore????? They saw you coming didnt they!

The most ive ever paid for a pure breed dog was $800 by finding a small scale breeder whose breeding programmes only ever occur when they are ready to produce the next champion from their own dogs, and are selling the remaining healthy, genetically tested, microchipped, vaccinated, desexed, pups after they have chosen their picks from the litter. Yes you usually have to wait longer for these dogs, once you find the right breeder, you have to wait on THEIR timing, and when THEY are ready to breed, but its worth it for a pup that comes with a lifetime health guarantee, and a direct support person to go to if you have questions or concerns about the pup as it grows up..

How impatient have we become as a society that "must have now" costs $1000........blow the fact that there is likely to be many more thousands added to it due to health issues along the way.

[Fergies_2012]

You r right i dont have the slightest clue which is why I asked.


^ Thank you for this comment, i understand what you mean about asking a question and getting bombarded on here with how much a bad pet owner you are.

I asked a question about my dog as she was found in the tie twice with my other male dog. Let's see if any puppies come of it x

[Lunareclipse]

Fergie, you are rather blase about indiscriminately breeding your pets. We don't condone behavior like that on here. Seriously, go to your local shelter on a day when they euthanize perfectly adoptable dogs for lack of homes. If you can't do that, then quit antagonizing.