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Old 01-09-2007   #41 (permalink)
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My dog eats Beneful, but she loves food so anything you put in front of her she'll gobble down!
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Old 02-16-2007   #42 (permalink)
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We use Chicken Soup for the Puppies Lovers Soul Large Breed Formula which we get at the pet shop near us. (they will order it for us) We have a Golden Retriever puppy. Chicken Soup is a reasonably priced premium food, no fillers, no preseratives, no artificail colors. We also use Merrick's puppy plate canned, on top a couple of feedings a day. She absolutely inhales it. The Merrick is expensive. (1.99 per can) We also believe that a premium food will extend her life and keep her healthier. Not to mention firmer less stinky stools. The premium pet food should help us have less health related vet trips. You can't find good food at Wal-Mart/Grocery store. Sometimes feed stores and hopefully a pet shop will have a better food selection. You can also order food online from :
Petfooddirect.com.
They also list the ingredients to help you select a food to try. I found their ingredients listing on each food very helpful.
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I have two doberman pinchers and feed them both Canidae. I have seriously been thinking about feeding them raw. It seems like it will be healthier. As far as the dog food that you can buy at wal-mart or a grocery store, that is like us eating at McDonald's for every meal and every day. I won't feed my dogs anything from a grocery store.
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Great post Dumdog1964, I agree that nutrition plays a magor role in health and development. I have recently been researching dog food because I want our dog to be as healthy as possible and live illness free. I know good nutrition helps them live longer. The dog food companies put horrible things in the food they make. It is unbelievable what goes in these products. We need to look at the ingredents and choose the best premium food we can feed. I found some great articles when I was looking into this:
This article talks about ingredients and Rendering,
Get The Facts - What’s Really in Pet Food

This site lets you compare foods: Get The Facts - What’s Really in Pet Food

A great site about dog food natural & premium, and how to pick :
Natural and Premium Dog Food - An Independent Review

This is a great site: *****
The Dog Food Project - How does your Dog Food Brand compare?

This is another great article that has a grading system that will help narrow your search for a food and also links to premium foods:******
Dog Food ~ Decoding Fact from Fiction by Laura Presley

I also found that once I knew the ingredents I wanted or didn't want as the case may be, Petfooddirect.com was great. It list the brands and you can click on the ingredents list and find out what is in them.
Here is the link:
Pet Food Supplies Dog Cat Bird ... PetFoodDirect.com
I hope everyone can find some time to look this stuff over. It is amazing. Thanks, Hope this will be helpful to everyone

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Cost is a factor for me and that is why I chose the Chicken Soup as Belle's base food. It was 29.99 for 35 lbs, (at the pet store) which I think is reasonable. Chicken soup is a reasonably priced premium food with good ingredients, no corn, no filler, no artifical colors,no artifical preseratives. Here is the list of ingredents for the adult dog formula: Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soul
Ingredients:
Chicken, turkey, chicken meal, turkey meal, whole grain brown rice, whole grain white rice, oatmeal, potatoes, cracked pearled barley, millet, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), duck, salmon, egg product, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, kelp, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, chicory root extract, carrots, peas, apples, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake. Vitamins and minerals.

I did use the Purina one ( vet recommened it in past as affordable premium) but it has corn in it. The prices are very close.The online price was anyway. I don't remember the store price. The Purina one ingredents are;
Purina ONE Adult Dog Chicken & Rice Formula

Ingredients:
Chicken, brewers rice, whole grain corn, corn gluten meal, poultry by-product meal, whole grain wheat, beef tallow preserved with mixedtocopherols (source of Vitamin E), natural flavors, dicalcium phosphate, salt, potassium chloride, choline chloride, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, vitamin supplements (E, A, B-12, D-3), zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, riboflavin supplement, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, biotin, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, copper sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, garlic oil, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, sodium selenite.

I got ingredents list from ;
Pet Food Supplies Dog Cat Bird ... PetFoodDirect.com


corn is a filler, brewers rice is a by product of the brewing industry and has little nutrition, poultry by product meal, is non specific which means a food with more grain than meat.
I was looking for something without chemicals and no rendered things;

"Unspecific ingredients such as animal fat are pretty frightening. It could be derived from the 4 Ds of the slaughter industry- dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter and could be part of a cow or road kill from how the AAFCO definition is written. It truly bothers me to know that "companion animals from clinics, pounds, and shelters can and are being rendered and used as sources of protein in pet food."

The above statement in quatation marks is from;
Dog Food ~ Decoding Fact from Fiction by Laura Presley

That really got me searching for something within my budget. There are certainly better foods than Chicken Soup but it fits the budget, it wasn't noticeably more than I was already spending. Anyway the above link is a very infirmative article.
From what I've read the people on raw diets really rave and it is supposed to be best for pets. I don't have a lot of info on that. Sounds extremely interesting. I like the Chicken Soup for now. She has done well on it so far. She likes it, which is good.
The premium food is supposed to be highly digestable which should produce less waste,pets should eat less and should be healthier, meaning less vet trips, so the money should actually be less in the long run.
I certainly agree with the above poster that most people " just see dog food as dog food" My sister in law feeds Pedagree and swears its great, and her dogs have beautiful coats, but seem to run overweight and be at the vet a lot. I fed the cats Purina one also until recently, ( dog food search caused cat food search LOL) and they seem healthy, but I still switched recently because of the by products, corn, etc.
The cats aren't quite on board yet, we are still mixing the two, and they prefer the old food, so I may have to try something else with them But that's another story.
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I have read all that you have written, and although I haven't commented before now, I think that what was written should be taken with alot of consideration. My dogs, are on partial raw, with kibble. The kibble that they are on is from our local grain store, Blue Seal. I buy the Natural 26. And after reading here, I find that it is mostly fillers also. But, my dogs seem to be doing fantastic, so, do I switch? Or do I just continue to feed this and that? I would really like opinions, as I do want the best without paying a fortune, and raw suppliments seem to be helping. Also, there does not seem to be allergies. So that is a plus!
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Hi,
Wow, six pages of reading!

I must say that everyone should read the book

Raw Meaty Bones, they even have a forumn you can look into.

As far as cost is concerned, I have four cavalier king charles spaniels. I spend £20 every two-three weeks on their food, for all four. Being from Texas, I know that it is more expensive in the UK than the US.

There are several things to consider when buying dog food:
1. Animal testing is still very much relied upon by the likes of purina, science diet, james wellbeloved and the most expensive brands. Their policies are horrible and just on that ground I would never purchase their products. However they publish some of their studies to be used by the other manufacturers.
2. The 'meat' in the dry and tinned dog food does not have to 'edible to humans' meaning it can be off, even rancid in some cases. It is also mass produced, giving the cow,lamb,chicken whatever you have no real life.
3. Dry and even tinned dog food is full on ingredients your dogs don't need. Which can lead to allergies and numerous health problems.
4. Dogs do not eat dry kibble or even tinned meat in the wild, they eat raw meat on the bone.

Did you know that vets are taught nutrition in their studies except by the dog food producers? It took me ages to find a vet that was sympathetic to my feeding practices.

I know that I am spoiled in the UK for the option of going down to the local butchers and know where my meat came from, what it was feed and what kind of life it had. I try and not to take it for granted, but also raw feed in the US and have that comparison and by far would say that the mail order system is far easier in the states.

Just my two cents for what it's worth.

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