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Old 08-19-2008   #21 (permalink)
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Aphrodite hit the nail on the head. Who cares what other people think? No matter how brilliant someone else may think they are they really don't have a clue, just as they really don't know what or who will be in Heaven or for that matter where Heaven will even be. Revel in this day and don't worry about things you have no control over.
 
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Old 08-19-2008   #22 (permalink)
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Aphrodite hit the nail on the head. Who cares what other people think? No matter how brilliant someone else may think they are they really don't have a clue, just as they really don't know what or who will be in Heaven or for that matter where Heaven will even be. Revel in this day and don't worry about things you have no control over.
Well said.
 
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Old 08-20-2008   #23 (permalink)
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Dogs will be in heaven long before any human.
 
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Old 08-20-2008   #24 (permalink)
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I was always taught that animals didn't have souls, only humans. I don't remember the bible speaking of animals having to repent or receive christ etc.
How would you feel eating your hamburger or killing for your food, if church ever told you the truth, that every living thing, everything in animation (actually the entire universe) has got that bit of God called a soul.
Animals don't have to repent to anyone but the creator itself. They don't have a ritual that doesn't mean they don't have a concious. Animals never kill for fun like we "soulfull" idiots do.
They don't have to receive christ cause they are His angels, they are within Christ already, never appart from Him
 
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Old 08-20-2008   #25 (permalink)
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According to what I was taught in catholic school, all living creatures have souls. They are just different depending on the kind of creature.
Plants have a kind of soul that allows them to eat, reproduce, and just be alive.
Dogs and other animals have the kind of soul that allows them to have sensation and feel, while humans have a soul that allows us to think and to reason.
 
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Old 08-20-2008   #26 (permalink)
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while humans have a soul that allows us to think and to reason.
I am delighted for your reply!!
I must say that I have very good reason to believe my Dogs are perfectly able to think and to Reason as well!!! Often times much more objectively than I. They can judge situations without emotion and they NEVER forget a thing!!!

I dare say plants have the ability to think and to reason, too!! They use it to adopt to the climatic disaster we (reasoning) human idiots are causing to the planet. If you search the news a bit you'll find evidence of this in the plant life changes of California!

It is an Intelligent Universe, we are not an intelligent species on our own right. Far from it!

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Old 08-20-2008   #27 (permalink)
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Thankyou Mydogiscute.
I know that my dogs think and reason. They also have preferences and they will try to communicate with me. My Aussie likes to have the last word. Seriously!
 
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My Aussie likes to have the last word. Seriously!
I Knows it...!!!! Just like my Irish Setter, My Doll!!!!!
 
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Old 08-23-2008   #29 (permalink)
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The soul is our mind, will and emotions. So of course, dogs have a soul. What they don't have according to God's Holy Word is a spirit.
 
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Animals never kill for fun like we "soulfull" idiots do.
They don't have to receive christ cause they are His angels, they are within Christ already, never appart from Him
It's apparent you do not know animals nor do you know the Lord. And I don't know who you are including when you say "we soulfull idiots."

Animals DO kill just for the fun of it. And human beings are not angels. We are what we are- human beings.
Based on the Bible, there's no truth in what you say.
 
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for the sake of argument, please refrain from religion with regards to post responses. thank you.
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for the sake of argument, please refrain from religion with regards to post responses. thank you.
Amen!
 
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for the sake of argument, please refrain from religion with regards to post responses. thank you.
I wasn't talking about religion nor did I say anything about religion. YOU did. Don't assume you know what a person means until you ask him first.
Your comment to my post has nothing to do with the topic. Stick to the topic posted or start another thread more to your liking.
 
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The soul is our mind, will and emotions. So of course, dogs have a soul. What they don't have according to God's Holy Word is a spirit.
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It's apparent you do not know animals nor do you know the Lord. And I don't know who you are including when you say "we soulfull idiots."

Animals DO kill just for the fun of it. And human beings are not angels. We are what we are- human beings.
Based on the Bible, there's no truth in what you say.
Those are your words Breeze.

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I wasn't talking about religion nor did I say anything about religion. YOU did. Don't assume you know what a person means until you ask him first.
Your comment to my post has nothing to do with the topic. Stick to the topic posted or start another thread more to your liking.
Also your words. Apparently you just like being a RELIGIOUS jerk. :P
 
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Apparently you don't know the definition of religion. Get on with your life and leave mine alone. I like mine.
 
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You know good and well what Yogi was referring to Breeze. You have made it clear where you 'think' your religious slant lays but your actions don't back it up.
tsk tsk

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion
 
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*Insert eating popcorn emoticon here*
 
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ROFLMBO!! Good One!! :lol::lol::lol:
 
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I wasn't talking about religion nor did I say anything about religion. YOU did. Don't assume you know what a person means until you ask him first.
Your comment to my post has nothing to do with the topic. Stick to the topic posted or start another thread more to your liking.
child, you are not in any position to be telling me or anyone here what to do. You are a guest and as such your posts are subject to deletion if they vary or in anyway are deemed negative. If you wish to quote from the Bible or make reference to it in your posts than you obviously are bringing religion into the mix.
If you read my post, it was in no way negative only responding as anyone would with regards to the OP. This pertains to dogs and is a common question. Those of us believe like humans which whether you like it or not are also a species of animal do possess emotions. Just because we do not understand their language in no implies they cannot speak this also holds true for their thought process. It was you with your implied religious overtones that clearly whether you realize it or not gave pretty much all of us here the impression you are preaching to us thus talking down to us. I personally will not accept this and was be quite kind in only asking that religion be avoided with regards to the posts. You are the one who made this more than it needed to be. If you do not like my post, feel free to take your preaching to a site more suited to your liking. "amen".
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Well call me confused. How does one not be religious when discussing whether animals do or do not have a soul? Isn't that a religious concept?

If I am allowed, I respectfully point out to those of the Christian faith that the Bible does mention that there are animals in Heaven. How else could the lion lay down with the lamb? What pulled that fiery chariot down from Heaven if they weren't horses?
 
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