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10-21-2007
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| | Guest | Should Pitbulls Be Banned * A must read*
Hello to all
This is a question that i have asked alot of people SHOULD PITBULLS BE BANNED i have had a lot of mixed answers. Rottweilers have attacked people before along with alot of other breeds of dogs but they have not been banned which i dont see as fair. If i could just put it this way it might make it clear is a gun dangerous? the answer to that is NO as if a gun is left on a floor it will never kill or hurt anyone, but if the is someone pulling the trigger then that is a different matter. That is the same for a pitbull if you have it from a puppy and just should it love and train it to be calm around people then it wont bite. but on the other hand if you train that dog to be a killer then that is what the dog will turn out to be. I would love to know your view on this matter
Look forward to all the replys
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10-24-2007
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First your gun theory, myself I am a gun owner and shoot competition pistol, and enjoy shooting, mostly paper targets. I have never heard of a gun hurting someone, except maybe if it were droped and went off hitting someone. But I have seen imbeciles handling weapon in a dangerous inappropriate manner. Some people should never be allowed to own a gun because it is the person, not the gun that is the problem. see where I am going with this? There is nothing wrong with the pit bull strain, it is the fact that some people should not have one because they want to bring out the negative side of of a great animal. So do not band the breed but screen the owners and see if they are suitable. Michael Vick, should not qualify for ownership of this breed, and maybe of any breed! Its people that are the problem not the dogs!!!
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11-06-2007
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we have a pitbull & never realized the discrimination that we were gonna go thru when we got him almost 6 yrs ago. it was hell trying to find a place that would rent to us, just because we owned one. & honestly, i feel our other dog, the austr. shep. is the one who has the tendency to be more agressive/protective.
i have friends who's dogs are not as mild-mannered as my dog is. & they have dogs that range from chihuahua to beagle to germ. shep. it's def. in how you raise them.
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11-08-2007
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First let me say there are many cities that have banned Rotties as well as Dobies,Akita's even GSD's.....I don't think any breed should be banned but that certain people should be banned from owning them...I don't know how many more times it must be said that it's not the breed that is the problem but the people who own them...As an owner of an Akita and a Husky both great dogs with loving personalities and excellent temperments I'm sick of the bashing of large breed dogs...I have trained Pitts and Rotties that are sweetest dogs in the world and Poodles that are as nasty as the people who own them..Any dog has the potential to be mean if it's not properly socialized and trained at a young age or if it's abused or neglected....There are many human being who suffer from severe personality defects because of abuse and neglect or bad parenting...Do we ban them?...Of course not and look at all the crimes they end up committing....We don't remove them from society until they've done something criminal but people want to get rid of Pitts simply because they were born!...That's just wrong IMO!
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11-09-2007
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many authorities have banned them in Australia, has been that way for a few years. Mine for example bans pit bulls and akitsas.
Really very common here to have these breeds banned. But we're even more over regulated than you guys in the US!!!
I think its more a case of handling too. I've seen all sorts of badly treated dogs that are aggressive to people, even breeds not prone to aggression.
Last edited by -Mick-; 11-09-2007 at 09:19 AM.
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11-16-2007
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If you want my opinion no breed of dog should be banned. It really doesn't make a lot of sense. Since there is no point in it why subject a certain breed of dog to it? I do believe in dangerous dog laws and that they should be enforced. This way people are protected to the best possible from dangerous dogs no matter the breed.
I'm not sure where you are getting Rottweilers are not banned. There are several cities which ban Rotts (and other breeds). A city where one of my Pits is at they banned Rottweilers. There is 1 city which has restrictions against Pit Bulls, Rottweilers and 14 other breeds and any dog which is 100lbs or over (no matter the breed or mix).
Maybe you don't realize how bad it really is. BSL is far worse then just Pit Bulls, so is insurance black list some have like 12 breeds on them.
There are a couple dozen breeds which have/do face some type of discrimination. And like a 100 breeds could also due to their physical appearance of a banned breed, size or just being a future target as a "dangerous dog".
I'm thinking of changing our APBT club to an endangered breeds club instead. This way we can all ban together and support. I think to get a good reaction. Even at out love a bully march there were non bullies (Cocker, Lab) so many people are against BSL and not just those who are currently under fire.
What so many don't realize is that its not going to stop with a few breeds it will spread. There are insurance companies which are thinking they might now not want to insure people who own Labs now. By some Boxer's are already included. These are breeds which not too recently would have never been thought to face any type of breed discrimination. I don't think many people will be happy or feel "safe" unless as dogs are extinct. Maybe they would exclude toy breeds which they don't see as dangerous, but you never know what type of problem they might find with them.
I can't understand the dog owners who are be for banning. It could possibly be their breed next and even if it never came to that you'd think dog owners would have enough dog sense to know that no breed is dangerous/evil/vicious because of the breed. How much common sense and logical thought does it take to figure out that no breed has these these mythical beastly powers and phenomenas that Pits are said to have. -Locking jaws, 1500 PSI, brain swelling bigger then their head (they said this about other breeds in the past especially Dobies but a lot of that hype has died down and been forgotten), its amazing what supposedly smart/educated people will actually believe. I could make something up tomorrow and people would believe it.
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11-18-2007
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Good Comment! More and more laws are being passed that are extreemly invasive of our given rights in the Contitution. In Spencer, SD, They passed a law no pit bulls can reside in the town, and one lady that had her pit bull for over six years was told to get rid of her dog or move. Her dog had never in this time frame cause harm to any person or animal. Absolutely NO infractions! Because she could not find someone to adopt her dog she had to have it euthanasia, or the City would have done it. This is a sad reality, if I had heard of it, would have taken the dog. I only heard of it when I read the paper, and was very sad for both the lady and her dog. I would think the dog should have been grandfathered in because it was there well before this a$$ hole law was enacted. But this is just the tip of the Iceberg. Just my opinion!!
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11-18-2007
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Yes, they should be trained. Don't ban the dog, ban the owner. | |
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12-16-2008
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My pit mix is a rescue. I don't know what her previous life was like, only that in the 2 years I've had her I've grown to trust her implicitly with people. She is good and loyal and loving. Two year olds have come up to her unawares on the street and thrown their arms around her and she lets them. I have less confidence with other dogs on the other hand, and we generally stay away from dog runs because she has a tendency to get into trouble there. Bottomline being: you are best knowing your dog because every dog is different. To make generalizations based on breed alone is dangerous and unfair.
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12-16-2008
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I have had plenty of dogs and many of them were pitbulls. I have NEVER had one of my pits bite, attack, or harm any person or another animal. Right now I have 2 pitbulls, a golden retriever, and a couple of strays and the ONLY one that is aggressive or that I wouldn't trust around people is the golden. I honestly believe that how a dog is raised means alot. I remember when I was younger though, Some how my dad ended up with a pit that was used for fighting. Well when we got her she was pregnant and of course we were all scared of her BUT she also turned out to be a very sweet dog. I remember after she had her puppies she would let us crawl in the dog house with her to play with them. So even though some HORRIBLE people used her to fight once she was out of that situation she was a great dog. I think that the dogs are naturally well tempered animals but some are MADE to do bad things and that is not the dogs or the breeds fault. That is a human fault.
Granted I have had alot of people trying to make me get rid of my pits I never will. They are great dogs and they both think they are 60 pound lap dogs. I could go on and on but I won't...lol
I will say this....Dogs breeds are kind of like human races and when a person commits a crime or fights somebody that whole race of people is not banned and dog breeds should not be either!!!!!!
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