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Old 04-21-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Question Border Collie chases dogs, barks in their face

My border collie just joined a leash-free dog park and boarding facility, where I pay a monthly fee to let him run around with other dog members while I'm there. He loves it as we don't have a fenced in yard and he doesn't get to play with other dogs much. He chases the fastest dog and seems to be herding them and barking in their face. Some of the dogs bark and bite back which causes quite a stir. He has been getting time outs for this annoying behaviour, at the suggestion of the park owner. Is this a border collie trait and how do I get him to stop this behaviour? I'm afraid he may eventually be kicked out of the park. We haven't had the opportunity to meet and play with another border collie.
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lol in the other thread i voted Border Collie as the smart dog...
And I think your dog is smart but need proper training...
sometimes they get naughty...
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Border Collies are herding dogs. So to answer your question, yes it is a trait. I would suggest some training for both of you so he can learn off leash to come to you when called, etc. If you are letting him loose with other dogs and people, you need to be able to control him as well. I bet he is having a ball at the park!!! My old landlord had a border collie, he was the greatest, very playful, loved to play with my daughter, but needed to run, and run in circles!

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I used to have a border collie...(great dogs!) they are very smart, but unfortunately, they are learning even when we don't want them to, and they pick up bad habits as quickly and easily as good ones. The good news is, they will do ANYTHING to please you, so if you can spot what's triggering the problem for him, you can usually help them learn the right behavior...the bad news is they can become "obsessive" about their behavior if they aren't given TONS of exercise.

If you haven't had him in an obedience class, I'd recommend it, even if he already knows his stuff, just for the experience of being around other dogs and being required to behave himself and follow your commands. Talk to the instructor about his behavior and they might be able to work with you to help "socialize" him around other dogs, hopefully graduating to an off-leash situation.

There are also lots of places around now where you can take him to learn how to "herd" a few sheep or goats. That might be a better form of off leash exercise for him until he's figured out how you want him to behave around other dogs.

Lastly, you could try keeping him on the leash while at the leash free park to give you the control you need to show him what's allowed and what isn't and let him "earn" his freedom when he behaves appropriately...which might make more sense to a border collie than a time out.
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this is not just a trait but is instinctive behavior. herding dogs do just that - by nipping & circleing. the dog is probably barking because you aren't giving him directions of where to take the herd.

IMO it is not a good move to try to change who the dog is. you will break his spirit.

I agree you should have control over him but you may have to find a herder to train you, rather than just an obedience trainer
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this is not just a trait but is instinctive behavior. herding dogs do just that - by nipping & circleing. the dog is probably barking because you aren't giving him directions of where to take the herd.

IMO it is not a good move to try to change who the dog is. you will break his spirit.

I agree you should have control over him but you may have to find a herder to train you, rather than just an obedience trainer
Agree with that...
changing your dog is not a good one...
its not really the dog itself but the negative behavior...
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this is not just a trait but is instinctive behavior. herding dogs do just that - by nipping & circleing. the dog is probably barking because you aren't giving him directions of where to take the herd.

IMO it is not a good move to try to change who the dog is. you will break his spirit.

I agree you should have control over him but you may have to find a herder to train you, rather than just an obedience trainer
While I agree the herding instinct isn't something you would want to "break" a dog of, even if you could, a border collie can certainly be trained to obediently follow his owners directions without "breaking his spirit" or "changing who he is". A decent trainer will work with the dogs natural instincts to please it's master. As I suggested earlier, herding sheep or goats would be great and will certainly help with overall obedience, but before the owner can be certain her dog will behave for her around other dogs...it just makes sense to give him instruction while he's around other dogs.
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I think you should train him to not to do it each day and maybe he will stop.Heres a funny story and the park with my dog one day. My dog is a beagle and he's super funny. Every single dog in the park was chasing a blood hound and the blood hound was fist and MY dog was second from all the 100 other dogs. And my dog was barking his head off. It was sooo funny you should of seen it. I hope my idea works. your friend. doglover900
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