Easiest Potty Training

Puppylover · 09-14-2011

I've had 5 puppies in my lifetime and potty training was not fun, especially since I've gone back to work. Living in an apartment added to the hassle. A cousin told me about the PUPPY CARE CONDO unit, and my life as a puppy lover has changed dramatically. No more messes; working late one night is no problem.

cigwyllt · 09-14-2011

I have just googled it and I am disgusted by what I have seen and read. I would never, ever recommend anyone to use it. The dog is not trained - it is imprisoned in a box! The website boasts that you no longer have to return during the day to give your dog a toilet break! It is cruel in the extreme!

Lunareclipse · 09-14-2011

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Originally Posted by cigwyllt

I have just googled it and I am disgusted by what I have seen and read. I would never, ever recommend anyone to use it. The dog is not trained - it is imprisoned in a box! The website boasts that you no longer have to return during the day to give your dog a toilet break! It is cruel in the extreme!

While I don't agree with leaving your dog in the crate all day, I do see this inventions possibilities. It would probably be great for those hard to train dogs like shiszus or puppies that have a hard time holding it for more than 2 hours. A puppy laying in it's own pee is worse than this idea. I wish they had this when I had my chihuahua. I litter box trained him, though.

Puppylover · 09-14-2011

My first response to cigwylit did not go through for some reason. Her understanding of my use of this unit is totally incorrect. Our puppy is very, very happy, having the run of our home, returning to sleep in his condo and do his potty there. He was only "confined" to what you refer to his "box" for a couple of days until he learned to return to do his potty in the bathroom. We expanded his area slowly, and he willingly went back to his bathroom to potty. Now at evening time, he will automatically go back to his condo to sleep. We find him there every evening, snuggling into his carpeted area to go night night. I have to work long hours once a week or so, and cannot go home the long distance during the day to take him out. Having him hold his bladder that long is the inhumane thing. That's not even medically good for us to do that! My puppy has a very, very good life: we take him for walks, rides, and play with him daily, and our using the Condo is a blessing, not a curse to our puppy! Any type of training/kennel/crate can be mis-used if the person so desires. Puppies can be mis-treated without kennels/crates as well. Our puppy has an extremely good life with me.

cigwyllt · 09-14-2011

I can see it is useful as an aid to toilet training but the idea that you can leave a young puppy in there for hours on end is cruel. It gives the impression that you can keep your puppy in a box and take it out when you are ready to play. I find it really unpleasant.

reeskujo · 09-14-2011

I to just Googled it and it's nothing more then 2 crates stuck together..One crate is used for sleeping and one to go to the bathroom. Therefore that means when it's being used to keep a puppy confined for no matter how many hours the puppy still only has one crate to use for sleeping,playing and housing.

As a retired professional Akita breeder as well as a professional dog trainer I would tell new puppy owners the same exact thing I would tell them if was was just a single crate as really that's all the puppy has use of. No puppy or dog should be crated more then 4hr.s a day with the exception of overnight when everyone is asleep..It's cruel to expect any puppy/dog to spend 8hr.s or more during the day and then another 8hr.s a night which is 16 out of 24 hr.s locked in a crate with no human companionship nor is it conducive to giving them the socialization or training needed at such a young age.In my professional opinion this does nothing more then teach the puppy it's ok to use the bathroom in the vacinity of where it has to sleep. Which is exactly the opposite of what potty training is meant to do and it also allows the owners to ease their guilt about keeping the puppy/dog confined for very long periods of time and not put in the required time and effort of potty training which is simply a normal and required process of puppy ownership.This does nothing more then make things easier for the owner not he puppy and I would never recommend it to any student or owner of one of my puppies!!

cigwyllt · 09-14-2011

My biggest quarrel is with the website. It proudly proclaims "Now anyone can have a puppy!" I disagree with that - a dog needs to be with its people, interaction/socialisation is a NEED not an option. The website gives a completely different view.

I would never advise anyone to have a puppy if it means the pup has to be left alone for 8 hours a day every day. I do not believe that any puppy should be homed in those circumstances.

reeskujo · 09-14-2011

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Originally Posted by cigwyllt

My biggest quarrel is with the website. It proudly proclaims "Now anyone can have a puppy!" I disagree with that - a dog needs to be with its people, interaction/socialisation is a NEED not an option. The website gives a completely different view.

I would never advise anyone to have a puppy if it means the pup has to be left alone for 8 hours a day every day. I do not believe that any puppy should be homed in those circumstances.

I completely agree and if I was still breeding Akita's you'd better believe they wouldn't be going into a home where that system was in place!

Lunareclipse · 09-14-2011

I do believe they advertised a great idea wrong. I seriously would have bought one when I had my chihuahua. Not to keep him in there all day, but so he could have his bathroom in the house. He always kicked all of litter out of the box and made a huge mess of it. This seems much simpler to clean up.

reeskujo · 09-14-2011

I have no issue with it being used for potty training other then the fact that I don't believe it's ever a good idea to teach a puppy to go near where they have to sleep..I have an issue with people crating housebroken puppies/dogs all day long simply because they can go into the second crate to go potty..My Akita Seigi was housebroken by 12 weeks of age and has never been crated again..

Once a puppy is housebroken if it's still in the destructive stage then I feel they should be blocked if in a kitchen,laundry room etc...You are right that dogs can be ignored even if they have free run of the house however they at least have the ability to walk around,play with their toys and come and aggravate you when they need human attention. I don't think that just because people have to work they shouldn't have pets but I do however think they need to be sure that they can provide enviorments conducive to what a puppy needs and being crated 16hr.s a day is not it..people need to remember that our dogs don't owe us anything nor do they have the responsibility of providing us with the proper enviorment. We have that responsibility to them!

Oh and just to add..I don't think anyone who gets a dog to throw it out in the yard and forget about it has any buisness having one!

lange · 09-15-2011

oh man...I'm with the against peeps on this one...

I can definitely see how this can get into the wrong hands & give the wrong idea to a lot of people. The purpose of a crate is so that they don't potty in it. They obviously need potty breaks & lots of watchful 1 on 1 time. I have to imagine the abuse of a crate is what turns off those people who completely hate them.

More problems that I see with this is that some dogs will learn that it's ok to potty in what they consider their sleeping place which will lead to never being house trained. My current two dogs are the extreme difference on potty training. Wrigley took years not to potty in his crate because of what I believe was a learned behavior, consequence of being an older pup from a pet store. Kuma on the other hand was pretty much potty trained in a week. When she poops outside she will go to the furthest corner of the property. Wrigley will poop right at the foot of our steps...with wrigley nothing is off limits no matter what. You see the pattern? Which is why I don't advocate paper or litter training dogs if you're goal is to have them housetrained. You just make it harder on yourself and the dog in the long run.

Lunareclipse · 09-15-2011

When I first brought my chihuahua home, the snow drifts were taller than he was. It was rather difficult for him to potty outside without freezing his willy off. So I trained him to use the littler box. This kind of thing would have been more ideal than a cat box.

piratekitty · 09-16-2011

I dont think I would like the smell of dog poop or pee in my house. Thats why I chose to potty train my dogs. They are trained to use a doggie door. Durring the day they are in the family/kitchen and can go out in a completly fenced fun yard thur a doggie door. Nina only has a problem when it thunders and lighting out, she gets scared, otherwise both have been trained as puppys, it was so easy.