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Old 10-23-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Anybody's dog have seizures?
Every time we go to the groomers, he gets upset and foams at the mouth a bit. Just recently, he foamed alot. Later that night in bed, he seizured for about 30 seconds. We were concerned and took him to the vet in the morning, and they did a blood test, and then a bile test. The next test they want to do is for fungus or spore. He did seizure minorly while at the Vet's office. The vet thinks it is epilepsy and started him on phenobarbital. That scares me, since it is known to destroy the liver. Is there any alternatives to pheno b? Or has anyone had experience with this?
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My 6 year old Chihuahua just started having seizures. We had blood work done and found that 2 liver enzymes were elevated. That pretty much rules out putting her on Phenobarbitol. Talk to your vet about Potassium Bromide-that doesn't damage the liver.
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Just wondering what type of dog you own. Here are a couple of ideas regarding the seizures:

First of all, I some types of dogs are supposed to be more prone to seizures. I am not sure which types they are, but you probably check online to see if your dog breed is one of those types.

Additionally (and take this for what you will): My daughter works at a grooming facility. Have you ever seen the blowers some of the groomers use to blow the water off the dog, after a bathing session? They are like supersonic blowers. They actually "blow the water off the dog", not just dry the dog. Then the dog may be put in a cage with less powerful fans aimed toward it. If the dog wasn't bathed at the groomer, possibly it is just nervous during the procedure. The dogs are usually put up, on a table. Some groomers are really nice. I understand that some are not. One of the groomers working where my daughter works, is not. She is not always that nice to the dogs, and occasionally dogs will end up with cuts from the electric clippers. One groomer decided to start the vacuum while another groomer had a dog on the table. Not all dogs like vacuums! Understand that this is a nationwide chain with grooming stations in their facilities. Obviously, not all groomers are good and not all are bad. The other groomers at the facility where my daughter works are patient and good to the dogs. The point here is that I, personally, would not expose my Border Collie to the dryers, alone, having seen what they are like, as I feel she would find it upsetting even if I was the one performing the drying process, in my own home. I hope I have not offended the groomers who love dogs and love their jobs. It is an important job, and lots of dogs need the services. It's just a note in case you aren't quite aware of what your dog may, or may not be experiencing during his trip to the groomer.

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Our Border Collie seized about 1 1/2 years ago. I was terribly upset, because I was concerned that this might become a serious and chronic problem. It was scarey for us, and for the dog, and occurred on Easter morining. I tried to think back, as to whether anything different had happened to the dog prior to the seizure. Shortly before the seizure, (a couple of weeks, maybe - not sure) the dog had gotten into some bones or other garbagey type of stuff. I had taken her to the vet, like a good dog owner might, because of the digestive distress it had resulted in. The vet put her on whatever medicine they use for calming the stomach down, along with an antibiotic (I could probably look both of these up, but don't have the names of the medicine immediately at hand.) What side effects do these medicines potentially have, I wondered? (Since that was the only thing that had recently changed). The vet did not seem to think that the medicine could have been the culprit, but after some online investigating, I found out that either one or both of the medicines had seizures listed as a possible side effect. I looked a lot of stuff up regarding this. I cannot absolutely say this was the cause of this upsetting event, just a good possibility. Although I do not suggest that people avoid veterinary care - vet care is very important to the health of our pets - I do think we should be educated where need-be. I, personally, have opted to err on the side of caution where some medications are concerned, with this particular animal.

Some animals are more prone to that type of thing, but if stress can add to it, then be careful with that. If you animal is on some sort of medication, maybe checking the potential side effects could be helpful. Then, there are the other causes of seizures, for which your vet would be your first resource. Hope this may be of some sort of help, but in any case, good luck with your dog.
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I agree with Helly. If your dog is having seizures at the groomers, maybe there are some things your groomer could do differently that would help your dog stay a little calmer.
I actually groom a dog that has seizures. The first time I groomed her, I put her in the tub, turned on the water and as soon as the water hit her she started having a seizure. Luckily the owner was right outside, since she already knew this was likely to happen. We took a lot of breaks and I did what I could without causing too much stress to the dog. We agreed that next time she would bathe the dog at home and just bring her in for a comb out and trim. This worked a little better but she still had a few seizures. The last time I groomed her, we booked her at 8am- the first appointment of the day and had the owner give the bath at home. This combination worked out great. The dog did great, I think she was more at ease without all the noise and confusion being the first dog of the day. So from now on, this is what we'll do.
I would talk to your groomer. The two of you should be able to come up with a way to make grooming more enjoyable for your dog.
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It would seem as though stress is the root cause of your dogs seizures. Stress is the number 1 cause of disease.The question is why is this particular individual more prone to stress than many other individuals? Chemical imbalances could be a major contribitor, indeed most cases of disease can be attributed to nutritional difficiencies.

There is a major connection here. Nutrition - stress - disease (ie. sezures).

I have an 11 yr. old German Shepherd that recently had either a mini-stroke or sezure during the night. When I saw him in the morning he was trembling, disoriented, his eyes seemed unfocused and he was barely able to struggle into the sitting position.

I gave him a nutritional suppliment that I have been taking for the past 12 years for various problems and by the end of the day he was able to get up and though still wobbly was able to go about his business.

I continued to give him the suppliment and over the course of the next 2 weeks his health improved to such an extent that he is in better condition than before his bout.

One of the areas in which I know this suppliment to work extremely well is stress. I know this from personal experience, from research and from personal observation in regard to heat stress and my Great Pyrenees (now also on this suppliment).

This suppliment is all natural and among many other benefits, builds the liver and kidneys.

If you would like more information, please feel free to contact me I would be happy to share.

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