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Old 09-16-2007   #1 (permalink)
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I love my dog. I've had her since she was four months old. She will be eight this year... November 26th She is from what I know a mid size rotti/chow mix. I think she has a lot more chow than anything. She looks like a short haired, yellow chow. Right down to the curly tail and completely black tongue. Her coat is thick like a chow but short like a rotti... she's beautiful And she's my baby. We've been through a lot together. She saved my butt one night... my ex and his brother busted into my house with baseball bats. The two guys who were rooming with me ran out in the woods but Cloey fought beside me. We went to New York and broke down in CT on the way back...lol Even with all those people she didn't know and an officer in uniform she was sooo good. This is a really hard decision for me.
The last couple months she's been snappy with my cats. It's like they jump her. Although we've had several cats over the years, we've never not been without a cat. So she's always been around them. I actually have a picture I'll have to upload here... one where she is trying to nurse a kitten and another where she is curled up in a ball with one of our current cats, Bailey. Also one of the ones she snapped at (we have two). She wasn't eating or anything. Then the other day, my boyfriend threw some scraps into her bowl and called her to it. She came over and just looked at it and walked off. When he picked the bowl up close to her nose she realized there was something in and ate it. She's also been barking at everything... including my car that I've had for almost 5 years and she never used to before. I think her hearing and her eyes are going. She's hated to go outside all summer. We have to drag her out alot... that's how bad she does not want to go out. When she does go out, she just sits on the step and barks to come in. She's started urinating in the house on a daily basis. I have actually recently taken all of my rugs out of the house because of it and thrown them out. She's gotten impossible to bathe. She hates the water... I tried taking her into a lake because I didn't want to hurt her getting into the tub but spent the entire time trying to keep her in the lake. I haven't taken her to the vet yet for her hips, but I think they are starting to bother her too. She just looks lame when she walks. I never thought unless something drastic happened, I would financially be able to take care of her health. I have very recently finished treatment for breast cancer and straight up, I'm broke... I don't know what to do. I know I can't afford to take this on right now, but she means alot to me and I want to do right by her. I have a handicap son. I don't know that I'm going to be able to trust Cloey much longer not to bite because she has started to snap at the cats. I'm afraid as her hearing and eyes get worse, she's going to be that much more of a risk. She isn't ugly (mean) and I don't believe she would ever bite someone in an act of pure violence. I am afraid one of us are going to come through the door and she's not going to recognize us. Or one us of are going to walk up to her and jump her... Something like that. She is the first dog I've faced this with. Or it might someone she knows but doesn't see often. I wouldn't want to see anyone get bit and I wouldn't her to bite anyone... I don't want to have that memory of her. I am very responsible with her. She NEVER gets loose. Even when she did like to go outside. I lived in the country for the first 3 years and she was allowed to roam the yard leash free... I've been in town for five and in that time she has gotten loose on me twice. Both times I was on her butt trying to catch her. I didn't just let her go thinking she'll be back when she's ready... So I don't really worry about strangers getting bit. They would have to be doing something they shouldn't have been doing and I would probably not sympathize with them as much because of it.
So I'm sorry I rambled on so much. I just really want to make the point that she isn't violent. I know different people have different opinions on certain breeds. Up until now I have never entertained the thought of her biting someone although I was always afraid this day would come and this would be what it came down to with her. She is no more than an over grown lap dog and always has been. Now with her hearing and eyes going it might change things, it might not... I'd like real life opinions on the subject... having a handicap child on top of this is definately a large part of my concern. Tyler is ADHD, OCD, Mentally Delayed... Verbally delayed... Behaviorally Challenged. So I guess he's pretty much on a questionaire all of the above...
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Hi there, I can understand your concerns of expense but any good vet will not put a dog down when there is no need. That being the case you will have to take him to the vet and let them diognose the problem. Hopefully it will be something they can treat if not, and only then, they will advise you the best course of action. I hope everything works out. Sorry to hear about your health troubles and your son. Good luck.---Aggy
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I guess I should rephrase my earlier post... I know I rambled on and lost sight of my actual question in a couple places. I said "I don't know what to do. I know I can't afford to take this on right now, but she means alot to me and I want to do right by her" meaning I would do what needs to be done regarding her hips.
What I was actually looking for is experiances and information pertaining to the issue of a dog possibly biting someone when the dogs hearing and eyes are getting bad... I'm worried that as these things get worse, she will bite somebody because she is already snapping, getting jumped easily and not recognizing noises and things that she once did.
You're right, a good vet won't put her down just for her hips... but they will put her down if they're afraid she may bite someone because it is the responsible thing to do. I just don't want to rely on only his opinion. The best made decision is an informed decision and that's all I'm trying to do... I was actually kind of hoping some people would reply who could tell me they've been in similiar situations and wouldn't recomend putting her down. I love my dog and this is absolutely not what I want.
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I had to have my yorkie pts last Thursday. He was 161/2 and was more or less blind and also deaf. He never bit anyone and the reason he went was because he had kidney failure. That is the only thing I can tell you I hope it helps. Good luck.----Aggy
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Thank you. I'm so very sorry to hear about your Yorkie! 16 1/2 years together is a long, wonderful life
My bf is doing carpentry for an elderly couple. They have a very old dog. I'm not sure what breed or how old. He is def and blind though and a sweetie...
I'm really hoping when we see our vet if he mentions putting Clo to sleep for those particular issues, I can tell him with confidence "NO... I've done my research and see no reason for it" Like you said earlier though, he may not even suggest it. I really hope he doesn't. If he does at least I'll be prepared.. or as prepared as one ever is for that.

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It is very rough when your best friend gets old and things start to go down hill. I had a Cockapoo whom I had to put down two weeks before her 15Th birthday. She was blind and deaf, that I had no problem with. It was when she got a tumor on her hip that kept growing. When I took her to the vet, he said, it is time, b/c when that growth breaks she will be in a lot of pain. So then I had to decide to put her down. As far as your dog starting to bite, I think that is because she is afraid. My dog did attempt to bite if someone would sneak up on her or was frightened by something....a sound or smell even. As far as her hip.. It would be hard to operate on her anyway, b/c of her age. I would suggest an asperin a day in her food. It is an anti-inflamitory and helps with the pain. If that doesn't help, seeing a vet for other ideas to help with the pain would be advised. I hope I have helped some.
I realize with your son having issues, it would be a concern with the biting. If it comes down to putting a muzzle on your dog some times, that is better than having to put her down, when you aren't ready.
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Yeah... if it was just my boyfriend the cats and I it would be a complete different story. Tyler (my son) is just so unpredictable. We've decided that we need to get into the habbit of speaking to her as we approach so as not to jump her. I'm not sure that's really going to click for my son. I hadn't thought much about a muzzle. I guess if it gets to that point the ultimate decision will be hers... it's worth a try if she's okay with it there's no reason not to use one? Do they make them so that the dog can still eat and drink... how does that work? She drinks ALOT...
Just today someone elses dog was loose and Cloey was outside (she actually asked to go out!!!). The dog was coming closer in his own time. He was just kind of sniffing around... Clo was freaking out. I believe if I hadn't gone out she would have attacked the other dog when/if it got close enough. It struck me as really odd because she's grown up with other dogs. No others of my own, but family, friends and neighbours... I've never had a problem between her and another non aggressive dog. There was one dog that got loose on it's owner years ago and attacked Clo, after that... she didn't like that dog and any time it came around she would attack it. Cloey got the bad reputation because of her breed but whatever... Cloey was hooked and the other dog bit her first. I feel she has a right to defend herself. This one I don't think would have been aggressive. I started yelling at it and it just looked at me like his heart was broken. I felt bad... but would have felt worse trying to find his owners to tell them my big dog had done god knows what to their little one and my hands were full trying to get my dog in the house. So really the only thing I had I could use was my deepest meanest sounding yelling...
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There are muzzles that allows the dog to do normal things, like eating and drinking. The muzzle tighens far back on the mouth, but allows normal action except biting. The jaw opens very wide to bite. Look for one on the Internet. If I run across one, I will send you the link.
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That sounds great... Thank you much
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