[Lara's mom]

I'm so very sorry for your loss. It must be terrible for you. I wish I had some words of comfort for you but, I know from experience that nothing anybody says can take away your hurt. Please know that we're here for you and that we understand the terrible pain of losing a beloved fur child.

That drug should be taken off of the market immediately. It is poison. A couple of posts up, there is a link where you can report adverse reactions to this drug. I urge you to do it. Perhaps, if there are enough people like you who lost their dog because of this drug, it will be pulled from the market.

Once again, please accept my deepest sympathy for your loss.

I am so sorry for those who have lost their beloved dogs as a result of using proin for incontinence. I too was prescribed this for my 1-1/2 year old husky-mix and since she is not incontinent always only gets a tablet 2-3 times a week. I decided to research this because mostly I completely trust my vet and I am glad I looked. I am going to try the soy-based suggestion because I've used soy myself and it is completely natural. Again, I am sorry for those wonderful friends who are gone but glad to know what this medicine is.

I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I had a dog of mine on Proin for 6 years before she finally passed away and I never had any sort of trouble with it...

[Lara's mom]

Moral of the story: Vets "practice medicine" just like human Doctors. It has by no means been perfected. Also, there is way too close a relationship between vets and the pharmaceutical industry. As the caretakers of our little loved ones, it falls to us to do the research.

Originally Posted by Lara's mom

Moral of the story: Vets "practice medicine" just like human Doctors. It has by no means been perfected. Also, there is way too close a relationship between vets and the pharmaceutical industry. As the caretakers of our little loved ones, it falls to us to do the research.

I agree with you to a certain extent... research is definitely important for us dog owners to do, but a large portion of trust needs to be given to the vets. If you don't trust your vet enough to accept his recommendation, you need to find a few one.

[Bailey24]

[QUOTE=cocoapuff;71421] I had a 11 year old female choclate lab, Cocoa, my best friend!!!
She was diagnosed with incontinence just this Friday night, My vet said all blood work and urine test all checked out negative..My Cocoa was fit as a fiddle. So the vet said to put her on Proin 50, start with 2 tablets, 50mgs each. Went home, gave her the pills, and within 2 hours, she started showing adverse effects,,,panting, breathing heavier than normal, lathargic, she vomited 1 time over night, and could hardly get up to go outside. So I called the vet, and he said to just wait about 24 hours or so, and the Proin should leave her system. The poor gal suffered right in front of me and I just trusted the vet. I rushed her to the vet after I called him again around 7 pm saturday night, and this time he said to bring her in and he would check her out and do whatever he could to stabilize her. She died around 12:30 am this morning, from heart failure, about 30 hours after me giving her the pills. I thought I would be going to pick her up sometime today, since I got her to the vet b4 she was real bad. She was such a trooper, she hung in there for 30 something hours, but that is what hurts the most, is that I was watching her suffer and die a slow death right b4 my eyes, and didn't even know it. I am sorry for your loss Kaandu, and any others out there. I too wish I had read up on this Proin b4 I gave her the pills. I also am having a problem with this because I feel like I played a part in her death as well. I too would of rather dealt with the couple times a week urine issue than signing her death certificate. Rest in Peace girl[/QUOT

I am stunned. I cannot believe another beloved pet has died because of this drug. PLEASE report this drug to PRN Pharmacal. I listed the link in my previous post. The women I spoke to called my vet the next day to get a report and was very interested in what happend to my Bailey. She actually almost started crying when I told her Bailey had died within 6 hours of getting Proin. We really need to do something to get this drug off the market. Again, I feel for you. I am so sorry.

[Bailey24]

Originally Posted by RSmith103

I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I had a dog of mine on Proin for 6 years before she finally passed away and I never had any sort of trouble with it...

I have to say that with all the research I have done about Proin, most dogs tolerate the drug well. I have called vets, spoken to veterinary schools in the area etc. However, there is a small population of older female dogs who seem to have a reaction to this drug that is deadly. Maybe all these dogs had pre-existing conditions, however, there needs to be way more precautions taken by the vets and drug company in prescribing it. We need to know it can be fatal in certain situations. I firmly believe that if my vet had told me my dog could die from this drug, I would not have given it to her.

[Lara's mom]

I place a great deal of trust in my veterinarian. However, I also recognise that he's only human and can't possibly know everything. Nobody can. That is where I believe it falls to me to bring any prescription home and research it, after which I call the Doctor back, quote my sources and have a very frank discussion as to the pros vs. the cons of any given medication. Any vet "worth his or her salt" will take your concerns seriously, do some research themselves and get back to you. If this doesn't happen, it is time to look for another vet. The care of our pets has to be a partnership between the pet parent and the vet.

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by Lara's mom

I place a great deal of trust in my veterinarian. However, I also recognise that he's only human and can't possibly know everything. Nobody can. That is where I believe it falls to me to bring any prescription home and research it, after which I call the Doctor back, quote my sources and have a very frank discussion as to the pros vs. the cons of any given medication. Any vet "worth his or her salt" will take your concerns seriously, do some research themselves and get back to you. If this doesn't happen, it is time to look for another vet. The care of our pets has to be a partnership between the pet parent and the vet.

Glad you posted the above for all members to see--A very good idea. Just wanted to add that when I find adverse 'things' I am concerned about (or even if I come across a good article) on the net--I do a lot of forwarding that info to my vet(s). Lol, They all know me really well too!
BUT I am determined to try and get the info across to them--and no denying that they weren't 'aware' of it!!

[tana]

Two days ago we lost our beloved Basset Peanut to a deadly seizure. He had been on Proin for about a month. Ever since he started taking it, his spark was dimmer. He was lethargic and didn't have his usual appetite. We took him on vacation and noticed he was eating less so we didn't give him the Proin for two days. His appetitie increased slightly. We called the vet and was assured that the medication was safe. We decided that we would take him in to see the vet when we returned home in two days. We gave him a pill because his incontenence had returned and we didn't want him to leak on himself on the trip home. At 3:30 that morning our sweet boy died. I feel so guilty that I didn't listen to my instincts and take him off that medication! There is a hole in our hearts that can never be filled because of the loss of our beloved friend. Please explore other avenues for incontinence so you don't suffer like we are.

[aussiedog08]

I had to put my Austrailan Shepherd on Proin about a month ago because of incontinence that appeared all of a sudden. The vet said it happens in females who have been spayed but not normally at this young of an age. The 1/2 table of Proin seemed to be working somewhat and the vet said to up her dose from a 1/2 tablet two times a day to 1 tablet two times a day. She has been vomiting and having diarreah. We take her out to potty and she does a million circles until she finally does her thing.

Do you think that the vomiting and diarreah are a product of her being on the Proin? We use the adult diapers on her while she is in the house, but cannot have her pooping in the house!

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by aussiedog08

I had to put my Austrailan Shepherd on Proin about a month ago because of incontinence that appeared all of a sudden. The vet said it happens in females who have been spayed but not normally at this young of an age. The 1/2 table of Proin seemed to be working somewhat and the vet said to up her dose from a 1/2 tablet two times a day to 1 tablet two times a day. She has been vomiting and having diarreah. We take her out to potty and she does a million circles until she finally does her thing.

Do you think that the vomiting and diarreah are a product of her being on the Proin? We use the adult diapers on her while she is in the house, but cannot have her pooping in the house!

Please take away the Proin NOW!!! How much more proof do you need??!!

[aussiedog08]

We did take away the Proin only a few days ago. Not sure how much time to give her to feel better. Hopefully won't have to take her to the vet because the vets here in northern Ohio are very expensive!

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by aussiedog08

We did take away the Proin only a few days ago. Not sure how much time to give her to feel better. Hopefully won't have to take her to the vet because the vets here in northern Ohio are very expensive!

I hope your dog will start feeling better soon and this proin 'crap' didn't do permanent damage (liver, kidneys, etc). By the way, milk thistle (capsules) is good for the liver! FYI--I would never give my dogs Rimadyl, Proin, or Prednisone--to name a few of the worst things!! Keep me/us posted that your dog is past the proin crisis----Will be thinking about the poor baby and hoping for the best!!

[aussiedog08]

Thanks for your well wishes and information. I hope it won't take long either for her to get better!

[GMISeth]

Our 3 year old Lab Sally has been leaving occasional puddles in her sleeping spot recently, very unusual for a fastidious girl. Vet called it Hormonally Responsive Incontinence and wanted to prescribe PPA (Proin).

Thank goodness we decided to research before agreeing to put her on this. While the horror stories some owners have shared may not be the rule, they are enough for us to look at this as the last thing to try, not the first thing. We are beginning to use an herbal formula for bladder strength (that she loves the taste of, no forcing medications) and prefer to clean up the mess than subject our Sally to the nasty side effects and worse.

We want our Labbie to live a long and active life and not be tied to a potentially harmful medication to resolve what is a nusiance.

[CorkyMax]

Hi!
So glad you found out about this dangerous Proin before your lab got any of it!! You know a couple of other 'badies' are Rimadyl and prednisone. Hope your dog never gets any of them. Got to check on everything!

[cherylmartin]

Do No-Do Not-Do Not-Give Your pet ProIn!! We have to put down our beloved Jasmine, a 13 yr old peek-a-poo, today because of this dreadful medicine. After her first dose back in July (and I only gave her 2 doses before I stopped), she went from a healthy (except for a slight heart murmur), active 'puppy' who lived to eat to one suffering from kidney failure and not eating and I truly believe ProIn was the cause. After her very first dose, her appetite dwindled and by week's end, after taking her off, she developed pancreatitis, even though she was not eating very much and spent 8 miserable days at the Vets til I brought her home. Then we developed severe diareha and her kidneys began to fail. Then those meds didn't work so I changed vets-he gave her pepto-bismol and stopped it immediately. One of the prescriptions stated not be to given to dogs in kidney failure!! Please before you give your beloved pet meds, research-the Vets do not.

[Lara's mom]

Proin is a BAD drug...Don't use it. Too many dogs have lost their lives to this drug!

[cherylmartin]

I also wished I had researched this medicine before I made her take this-it is horrible! I truly believe that she would still be with us if it were not for me craming it down her throat! It makes any underlying problem fester and errupt. One dose and Jasmine had a pancreatitis attack, which she had not had in 5 yrs-one dose and her kidneys were failing, one dose and she was no longer up at 5:30 AM waiting for breakfast-she lived to eat even though she was only 13 lbs. One dose and she spent 45 days of living h___. not eating, but wanting to (I could hear her stomach growl),eating eating people food which I am against, having fluid treatments at home twice a day, diarehha. So I changed vets. I went back to her original vet who had moved too far away but I also regret changing vets 5 yrs ago. He proabably would have kept her alive for many more years. Please all of you head this as a serious warning: READ EVERYTHING YOU PUT IN YOUR PETS MOUTH AS IF IT WERE GOING INTO YOURS. This med needs to be off the market for pets as it is off the market for humasns.