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Old 07-22-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Child tormenting dogs (Don't think his dad realizes whats going on) HELP

You may ask what this has to do with dog health: Nothing other than every animal he comes in contact with ends up a nervous wreck. So it affects their mental health.

I'm more concerned about the childs actions


My uncle just got custody of his 14 year old son. The mom had got full custody for awhile and then after 7 years decided she couldn't handle him anymore and dumped him with his dad. (she kept him from his dad who is a preacher)

Well my grandfather was helping us move the other day and my cousin was with him helping.

He came up to my Terrier, from behind and grabbed her by the legs. My husband pulled that kid up from the collar and said don't touch that dog again.

Well it wasn't much longer until he came up behind her again and tried to grab her by the tail? (I had her on a leash and we were heading out for a walk)

And she turned around and showed her teeth. That time I said "Don't you dare come near my dog again, if she bites you its your fault and I will be siding with her"

The next day he went for her again. And my grand dad got onto him and said "if she bites you I'll defend that dog over you and your daddy will hear about it"

I handed the dog off to my grandfather and took the boy to the side and I said "Let me tell you about my husbands Chow Chow he had growing up. A pesky kid like you was over at his house. And she did to the dog what you had been doing. Well she got upset with the dog because it would come around her and she went up to it and hit it from behind and wouldn't you know that chow he turned around and bite her in the face. She had to have stitches in 3 spots on her face, and the scares would always be there."

I asked him "Do you understand. Even the gentlest dogs can bite, a dog is an animal and any animal with teeth who feels threatened may bite"

He replied "Whats a chow chow" I said "A dog" He walked off muttering about something about "what a stupid name for a dog"

This kid has raised himself. His mom just had 2 huskies, and a pit bull mix taken away and euthanized because they attacked someone. These dogs were kept outside chained and were mean.

The kid has no respect for animals. My uncle has a lab but the boy is never unsupervised around them.

For the last part of moving I sent my dogs to my grandmothers and chances are they won't be seeing this boy again but every once in awhile.

But how can I protect them from him and how can I make it clear to that kid you don't bother animals.

He will not be around my dogs again as far as I am concerned.

Why would anyone act like that?


By the way my grand dad told me he had a long talk with my uncle about this behavior


Some background:
This kid along with his brothers raised themselves and were in a home with no parental guidence.

The oldest boy is in college and on his own.

The middle child just graduated highschool and I think ended up in jail already.

This one my uncle just got custody of, full custody and he has been into some legal trouble before he went to live with his dad.

My uncle is a preacher and trying to straighten him up

By the way we found out mom would come home for a day or two and then leave for weeks at a time. She's a lesbian and she would go off and leave everytime she got a new girlfriend. So the boys were alone for all this time.

We never knew about any of this


(uncle is so happy to have his son back I don't think he realizes how many issues the kid has)

Oh and the kid also has adhd

I want to help but don't know how. But I also want to help from a distance KWIM? I mean I have a baby of my own on the way and don't want a kid like that around my baby. Or my animals.
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That kid is trouble with a capital T!!! By no means let either your baby or your dog around this kid. Something bad is bound to happen. You can try talking to the father about getting this kid some professional help before he becomes a full fledged monster but, if he is unwilling to do the right thing, the best you can do is to make sure you stay as far away from him as possible.

It isn't that I don't have sympathy for the kid. I do. However, your first responsibility is to your baby and your dog. You may want to let the father know that if he doesn't take the necessary action to correct this behaviour, you will not be a part of their lives. When an adolescent displays wanton cruelty to animals, it is a very bad sign.
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Angry I agree

Some parents don't know what's going on and others just dont give a darn.
I was living in an apartment, and i had to call the manager over to fix my shower. I put my two dogs in their kennel as he brought his kid with him.(How do you watch your kid when you are working)Any how my dogs like to jump up on people and play (which i am working on getting them not to do this) so i put them in the kennel. Well the kid kept sticking his fingers in the kennel riling up the dogs, so the second time he did this i nicely explained to the 10 year old that he should never put his fingers into a kennel or cage if he does not personally know the dogs or he could very well get bit. I then explained this to the landlord who was fixing the shower. the next thing i know i was being evicted for having vicious dogs. It seems like no matter where i move i run into dumb kids who were not taught you dont tease animals. I sure wish i could move back out to the country where i never had to deal with neighbors. My new residence has 3 kids that will ride their bikes or big wheels exc. up and down the sidewalk right in front of the house even though they live about 3 houses down(they could go in the opposite way to play) but they find it funnier to play in neighbors driveway or in front of my house so my dogs are just bouncing off the walls from one window to the next barking and going nuts all day long. The only way to rectify this (as i cant ask them not to be on the sidewalk) is to sleep all day with my dogs in the room so that they cant see or hear them. and then stay up all night when the kids are sleeping. Some days i get so frustrated i want to scream. so ya i know where you are coming from protect your baby and you and your dog first because you probably wont be able to fix the kid or his parent.
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It is a very serious indicator when a child, particularly one entering his teens becomes involved with tormenting and abusing animals. If the guardian of this child doesn't understand or care enough for the animals that are being put at risk, you may want to point out to him the very frightening correlation between the abuse of animals and the later abuse of human beings, particularly women and children.

If you do a little research, you will find that the majority of children who grow up to be serial killers began their "careers" by torturing animals. This is a well known fact. If this man truly loves this boy, he will get him some help before his patterns are so set that he becomes a ticking time bomb. There does come a point of "no return". We can only hope that the child has not yet reached that point.

In the mean time, I will repeat my advice. Keep your pets and your baby away from this kid. He is dangerous.
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I agree, this child needs professional help. Not only does he not seem to care that what he is doing is wrong, but he won't even listen to you when you say why it's wrong or he could be hurt. It would be different if he just didn't realize and he was a small child, but this is a teenager who should know better. Tell your uncle to get this kid help, now!
 
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