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Apple Cider Vinegar In their book, The Holistic Guide for a Healthy Dog, Wendy Volhard and Kerry Brown, DVM, note that “Apples contain a large amount of potassium plus phosphorus, chlorine, sodium, magnesium, calcium, sulfur, iron, fluorine, silicon, and many trace minerals. . . . ACV (apple cider vinegar) is credited with killing bacteria outright. . . .” Depending on the size of the dog, add 1/4 teaspoon (toy dogs) to 3 tablespoons (dogs over 50 lbs) total per day to their meals. Itchy skin is a sign that the skin is too alkaline in nature. Fleas and ticks do not find acidic skin desirable to live on, hence the importance of maintaining a slightly acidic body (for dogs, the normal pH range is 6.2-6.5). You can use straight ACV as an after-bath rinse; before going out into the country; and on beginning hot spots. If the skin is already broken, dilute the ACV 1:1 with water and spray it on the coat. As an ear rinse, use several drops of the 1:1 dilution weekly to avoid ear infections. These health conditions and others (including sore joints and the beginnings of arthritis), indicate a potassium deficiency, so ACV is a cheap way to help your animal’s health issues. For internal consumption, be sure to purchase an ACV product with the “mother” in it (i.e., should be raw unfiltered ACV), not the kind you buy at the grocery store. A good brand is Bragg’s, which can be found at health food stores. For external use such as to help rebalance skin pH and repel insects, I've found that the grocery store version seems to work fine, diluted 1:1 with water.

See these sites for more information: Bragg Live Foods, Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar, Bragg Liquid Aminos,Systemic Enzymes, Bragg Live Organic Food Products, Patricia Bragg, Paul Bragg, Bragg Organic Olive Oil, Bragg Salad Dressings, Bragg Seasonings, Bragg Health Products, Health - Apple Cider Vinegar Benefits, HowStuffWorks "Uses for Vinegar: Guidelines for Pet and Animal Care", Frugal Living and apple cider vinegar diet patch at apple-cider-vinegar-miracle.com.




Hey! I use this kind and it is at my grocery store!----Bragg organic raw~unfiltered apple cider vinegar (with the 'mother') My 2 dogs get this in their supper meal every night. I also think it helps curb the gas build-up that maybe could lead to bloat! This is just my idea--have not read it anywhere. I base this on the fact that when you make bean soup--you should add a little vinegar to cut down on the gasiness-- so what do you think? I would think the same thing would apply! Don't know how most dogs would react to the taste of vinegar---prob. has to be an acquired taste or build up gradually. I mix in 1/2 to 1 tsp. in their raw food. My dogs are med. size---bigger the dog--the more you give!

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I didnt know that there's a lot of application for the ac vinegar.
thanks for sharing this wonderful information.
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I didnt know that there's a lot of application for the ac vinegar.
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Lol, I was editing my post above while you were seeing it so maybe you didn't catch my addition!!
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What is ACV and what are some of it's benefits?

ACV stands for Apple Cider Vinegar. Of the 22 minerals essential for health, apple cider vinegar contains 19 in exactly the right amounts. *Some* of these minerals are potassium, phosphorus, sodium, magnesium, sulphur, iron, copper, silicon and pectin. ACV also contains natural malic and tartaric acids which are important in fighting body toxins and inhibiting unfriendly bacteria. There are claims that the additional acidity of ACV helps the digestion process. Many dogs like the taste of it, and it even makes the RMBs smell less raw meaty-like. Many people soak the RMBs in ACV prior to feeding, to aide with the digestion of bones. Remember in chemistry class, soaking a raw bone in vinegar? It turned rubbery! hummmm..some food for thought for those of you afraid of splintering bones. Again, the option to use ACV is purely another personal choice...some do and some don't. Oh, a teaspoon of ACV (daily) in your dog's food also removes tear stains (for those with very light-colored dogs). Results are usually begun to be seen in 7 to 10 days.
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Lol, I was editing my post above while you were seeing it so maybe you didn't catch my addition!!

yup... i didnt see your addition before i left my comment here the last time. Anyway... You seem to know a lot about these stuff... keep it up.

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yup... i didnt see your addition before i left my comment here the last time. Anyway... You seem to know a lot about these stuff... keep it up.

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The Wonders of Apple Cider Vinegar
(This article is about ACV with the 'Mother' -
NOT ACV from the supermarket used for salad dressing)



"Vinegar" comes from the French "Vinaigre" - "Vin" for wine and "Aigre" for sour, therefore vinegar stands for "the wine that has gone sour." Vinegar was accidentally discovered by French. The fermented wine was exposed to air by accident and vinegar appeared!

Where does the vinegar actually come from, you ask? The sweet apple juice is allowed to age, sealed tightly away from the air. Until all the natural sugar has been converted to alcohol, mother-of-vinegar is then added to start the second fermentation. Meanwhile, it is left open to the air, and, the alcohol changes to apple cider vinegar. Amazing!

Apple cider vinegar (ACV) is golden liquid concentrated with the healthy goodness of apples. It contains more than 30 important nutrients, 12 minerals, over 6 vitamins, essential acids and several enzymes. Moreover, it has a large dose of pectin for a healthy heart, and thus, healthy as a whole.

ACV is cheap, easy to use and it really benefits our health in numerous ways. ACV can benefit both people and their pets. It is antibacterial and anti-fungal and gives the immune system a good boost. As a high potassium electrolyte balancer, it remineralizes the body and helps normalize the blood’s alkaline acid balance.

ACV is proving most beneficial to people or animals with arthritis because it breaks down calcium deposits in the joints while remineralizing the bones. It has proven to be equally beneficial to dogs with hip dysplasia.

ACV is a good remedy for food poisoning and helpful in digestive upsets. It is also effective for urinary tract infections and it lowers high blood pressure. In fact, daily use of ACV eliminates tear stains around the eyes and nose of pets with white or light-colored fur. For those on diuretics, it is helpful in replacing potassium depletion.

ACV is the natural king of skin remedies. It is wonderful for itching and scratching pets as well as a superb skin and hair conditioner. Good old apple cider vinegar either straight or diluted 50/50 with water can be applied directly to the affected area and allowed to dry. It will eliminate dandruff, rejuvenate hair, skin and help sweeten and balance the pH levels in the body. When giving your pet a bath, shampoo, rinse, then apply ACV either straight or diluted, followed by rinsing with water. Notice, any residue shampoo will be washed out and you will feel and see an increased softness and sheen to the coat. It can be followed with a conditioner of your choice. Taken internally will help the body against arthritis, itching, obesity, bad odor, dry skin, joint problems, lack luster hair and weak immune system. Average dosage for a dog or person is 1/2 oz morning and 1/2 oz. evening. A cat is half that dose. Can be diluted fifty fifty with water, dripped on food. Finicky pets try tiny doses then work up to suggested amount.

For centuries, people have recognized ACV's health benefits to fight infection, promote digestion, and even in fighting osteoporosis. So when you eat that salad with the cider vinegar and oil dressing, you’re reaping large health benefits as well as good taste!

Perhaps the most sought after benefit of APPLE CIDER VINEGAR is the quick, easy WEIGHT LOSS it helps promote. Since it naturally helps your body get rid of excess fluids, helps speed up a slow metabolism and helps to "curb" your appetite. An age old product has been "re-discovered" and is now being used by millions to aid them in their weight loss endeavors. This liquid is highly absorbable so it starts working on you very quickly. You will be on your way to looking and feeling younger.

Enjoy!

You can find ACV with the 'Mother' in your local health food store or online.
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ACV is the natural king of skin remedies. It is wonderful for itching and scratching pets as well as a superb skin and hair conditioner. Good old apple cider vinegar either straight or diluted 50/50 with water can be applied directly to the affected area and allowed to dry. It will eliminate dandruff, rejuvenate hair, skin and help sweeten and balance the pH levels in the body. When giving your pet a bath, shampoo, rinse, then apply ACV either straight or diluted, followed by rinsing with water. Notice, any residue shampoo will be washed out and you will feel and see an increased softness and sheen to the coat. It can be followed with a conditioner of your choice. Taken internally will help the body against arthritis, itching, obesity, bad odor, dry skin, joint problems, lack luster hair and weak immune system. Average dosage for a dog or person is 1/2 oz morning and 1/2 oz. evening. A cat is half that dose. Can be diluted fifty fifty with water, dripped on food. Finicky pets try tiny doses then work up to suggested amount.
im going to have to try this for rylie's itchy skin
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My roommate's beagle basically owns the mini yard we have. Needless to say the grass is all dead. I'm wondering if the AC Vinegar trick will help revive it.

One can only hope.
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I tried letting the girls have a lick of some apple cider vinegar off of my finger. You should have seen the horrified look on their faces!!! I may get away with using it as a topical but there is no way they will eat anything that contains it.
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I tried letting the girls have a lick of some apple cider vinegar off of my finger. You should have seen the horrified look on their faces!!! I may get away with using it as a topical but there is no way they will eat anything that contains it.
Hey, Lara's Mom! Lol, I don't think any dog would want it that way--too strong. A person likes vinegar in their pickles, etc. but doubt if anybody would drink pure vinegar! You have to mix it in their food! Actually did you know that if you put vinegar in with whatever bones are in what you are cooking for them--that it will help leach out the calcium from the bones and give your food more calcium?! Good thing to do whenever you are using a soup bone to simmer for soup, etc--whatever! Mine get vinegar (the good expensive kind--Bragg's organic) in their supper meal every night. I mix it in their raw pulverized veggies and meat. They only get about 1/2-1 tsp. at one meal. You could do it even easier as you cook for your girls--so it would blend in better while cooking--Bet they may hardly tell the difference!
Another reason I give it with their supper meal is that I am thinking it would help 'cut the gas' and if so, figure it might be an aid also to help a dog not get Bloat! You should try adding it---It is very good for them in more ways than 1!
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i gave both dogs a bath tonight and used acv and wow! their coats are sooo soft and shinny and they cut down on the scratching so thats awesome! thanks so much for the tip! you have the best info
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My god max you have a big list of information to share i think. i did not know that vineger has this much benefits.any way i got t start making a diary note of all these things. thanks for sharing.
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Vinegar also works as a cleaning agent for many irons. I use it all the time.
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i gave both dogs a bath tonight and used acv and wow! their coats are sooo soft and shinny and they cut down on the scratching so thats awesome! thanks so much for the tip! you have the best info
So glad to help--I love dogs--It is that simple!! About my info----I have a lot of books and do research on the web to expand on what I want to know more about. I have also acquired some knowledge over the past 11 yrs because of my 2 boys--Corky and Max, lol and am still learning! The best and easiest way to get info is to know the subject you want to learn more about and just put the key word(s) in your browser! :mrgreen:
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My god max you have a big list of information to share i think. i did not know that vineger has this much benefits.any way i got t start making a diary note of all these things. thanks for sharing.


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i love my boys too. i have a good libary of books but i dont get new books unless i need something on a topic, training, cleaning, breed but i never thought of the foods and other natural stuff i can use.

i know what im gunna be getting the next time im at b&n lol
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UI just read this post...ACV I heard of the benefits before but heard that ACV canc ause Urinary issues and crystals? What is your take on that?. I went out today and purchased the Heinz brand since I couldnt find the expensive stuff no matter where I looked..including health stores. So that heinz apple cider vinager will have to do for now.

Now how much do I give my dogs? 70lbs and 12 pounds. I will be mixing it in their water.
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UI just read this post...ACV I heard of the benefits before but heard that ACV canc ause Urinary issues and crystals? What is your take on that?. I went out today and purchased the Heinz brand since I couldnt find the expensive stuff no matter where I looked..including health stores. So that heinz apple cider vinager will have to do for now.

Now how much do I give my dogs? 70lbs and 12 pounds. I will be mixing it in their water.
Am pasting here another article I found about dogs and vinegar which will at least answer part of your question! I have a question for you---What kind of diet do you feed---Commercial dog food, home-cooked, or raw? If you do home-cooked or raw--Why not mix it in the food? You can better judge how much they are getting this way I would think. Some people put it in the water as a way to keep the dog drinking water--keeps them thirsty---It is done if the dog doesn't drink enough water---I myself, would not like this unless I thought it was necessary! I don't like the idea of my dog drinking all the time because the vinegar in the water keeps him thirsty (If he doesn't need the water)--Guess I am putting myself in the dog's place!! And how do you know if your little dog is getting the right amount if the big dog and the little dog drink from same bowl!? Also you might want to gradually work up to the amount you want to give to get dog use to it! Here is the article:

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Every home with dogs should have apple cider vinegar. It's a remedy with multiple uses for dogs: alleviating allergies, arthritis, establishing correct pH balance. You can also give apple cider vinegar to cats and horses.

As written in an excellent, 1997 article by Wendy Volhard:

"...If your dog has itchy skin, the beginnings of a hot spot, incessantly washes its feet, has smelly ears, or is picky about his food, the application of ACV may change things around. For poor appetite, use it in the food - 1 tablespoon, two times a day for a 50 lb. dog. For itchy skin or beginning hot spots, put ACV into a spray bottle, part the hair and spray on. Any skin eruption will dry up in 24 hours and will save you having to shave the dog. If the skin is already broken, dilute ACV with an equal amount of water and spray on.

Taken internally, ACV is credited with maintaining the acid/alkaline balance of the digestive tract. To check your dog's pH balance, pick up some pH strips at the drug store, and first thing in the morning test the dog's urine. If it reads anywhere from 6.2 - 6.5, your dog's system is exactly where it should be. If it is 7.5 or higher, the diet you are feeding is too alkaline, and ACV will re-establish the correct balance.

If you have a dog that has clear, watery discharge from the eyes, a runny nose, or coughs with a liquid sound, use ACV in his or her food. One teaspoon twice a day for a 50 lb. dog will do the job.

After your weekly grooming sessions, use a few drops in his or her ears after cleaning them to avoid ear infections. Other uses for ACV are the prevention of muscle weakness, cramps, feeling the cold, calluses on elbows and hock joints, constipation, bruising too easily, pimples on skin surfaces, twitching of facial muscles, sore joints, arthritis and pus in the urine. There are also reports that it is useful in the prevention of bladder and kidney stones.

Fleas, flies, ticks and bacteria, external parasites, ring worm, fungus, staphylococcus, streptococcus, pneumococcus, mange, etc., are unlikely to inhabit a dog whose system is acidic inside and out. Should you ever experience any of these with your dog, bathe with a nice gentle herbal shampoo -- one that you would use on your own hair -- rinse thoroughly, and then sponge on ACV diluted with equal amounts of warm water. Allow your dog to drip dry. It is not necessary to use harsh chemicals for minor flea infestations. All fleas drown in soapy water and the ACV rinse makes the skin too acidic for a re-infestation. If you are worried about picking up fleas when you take your dog away from home, keep some ACV in a spray bottle, and spray your dog before you leave home, and when you get back. Take some with you and keep it in the car, just in case you need it any time. Obviously for major infestations, more drastic measures are necessary. ACV normalizes the pH levels of the skin, makes your dog unpalatable to even the nastiest of bacteria and you have a dog that smells like a salad, a small price to pay! "

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This is from the 1st post I did in this thread:ACV (apple cider vinegar) is credited with killing bacteria outright. . . .” Depending on the size of the dog, add 1/4 teaspoon (toy dogs) to 3 tablespoons (dogs over 50 lbs) total per day to their meals. Itchy skin is a sign that the skin is too alkaline in nature. Fleas and ticks do not find acidic skin desirable to live on, hence the importance of maintaining a slightly acidic body (for dogs, the normal pH range is 6.2-6.5).

This is from 6th post I did in this thread!: Taken internally will help the body against arthritis, itching, obesity, bad odor, dry skin, joint problems, lack luster hair and weak immune system. Average dosage for a dog or person is 1/2 oz morning and 1/2 oz. evening. A cat is half that dose. Can be diluted fifty fifty with water, dripped on food. Finicky pets try tiny doses then work up to suggested amount.

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