[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by cherylmartin

Please give us an update!
What meds are you giving?
Did your Vet provide you with a Client Information Sheet fpr each prescription, just like your pharmacist does??
Some 'prescription' drugs can be so harmful and its up to us to decide what to give and what not to give.
Please read Jasmine's story at: Jasmine's Rainbow Residency at RainbowsBridge.com
I didn't know.

Cheryl and Angel Jasmine
Jasmine was loved
Jasmine took ProIn
Jasmine is gone

Cheryl, I just read Jasmine's story. It made me cry. If you put this link in here before I must of missed it--I had a tendency to avoid the Rainbow Bridge section in here as it affected me too much. She sure was a great dog.
I can see why you want to tell everybody about proin. If anybody else has read this story they would understand why some deadly drugs should not be given--You have had the experience 1st hand. I may not be a vet but how could any vet give that poison to a dog who already had pancreatitis let alone a healthy dog??!! Now can anyone tell me that this vet was a good vet
and knew what he was doing? Can anyone tell me that a person should not know all the deadly side effects that could happen with the use of most of the drugs given to our babies!!? Can anyone tell me that after reading the very long and well-read thread in here on Proin that this drug should not be in use!!? I am not going to play 'Russian Roulette' with my two boys!!! If I had not seen this thread and my vet gave this poison I would have no idea until it was too late like so many that come in this forum and tell their story! How much more proof do you need? Yes there are some dogs that did okay on things like prednisone--maybe even Rimadyl BUT if the vet doesn't do blood tests, etc and find that your dog is in good shape before just giving the crap--How risky is this!!?? I know how my dog reacted to Rimadyl.(and he was healthy!) I know that my mother's dog died because of the prednisone complications. When I put all these side effects in this forum on poisonous meds --at least the warnings are there and so is the info that the vet should of given before administering so freely. Now if someone came in here and said their dog is on Proin and is doing just fine on it and no one knew all the facts about Proin--unthinkable as to how many pets might die!!
How can you say this is too one-sided about the bad side effects--It is something, period, that should be stated by the vet before anything is even given!! I want everyone to know what could kill their dog, esp, to know that they should 'make' their vet do bloodwork 1st and to check the dog out 'thoroughly' and what to look for if their dog is on these things before it is too late and the dog is permanently damaged or dies! There may be cases that the dog is so bad that there is not much choice but it is still important to know all the facts and be aware of what side effects are involved so you know to get your dog off of it if it is having them--before it kills it!! (Lara and Yogi) Wouldn't it also be great if everybody had a good vet and did everything right like yours, Lara (and I like that yours uses holistic/homeopathic methods also) and like Yogi's too! And how do you know if you have a good vet--You may not know until your dog dies that the vet was not good----After all we are not suppose to be knowledgeable about all these meds they give and what they should of done before giving ---As I said before--they are not GOD. And knowing how dangerous some of these meds are--there are other meds to replace some of these killers that are given---Rimadyl can be replaced by Tramadol for pain for one and has less side effects. If you research when you have to get a med for your dog--the internet is still a good place to do that---Your vet (the bad ones) is not going to be a very good source. And no one is 'holding a gun to your head' and making you do whatever you read---You have a brain--use it! If all the bad vets were known and 'lost their jobs' because of it--I just wonder what the percentages would be!!

And what about the new 1st time dog owner who all of a sudden has an emergency and has never been to a vet---The one they choose to go to, and in a hurry (emergency) may not be a good vet and they may not figure that out until it is too late! At least if they read about things in this forum--because this is a dog forum to learn about dogs, and it is read here before hand--At least there is some info that could help when they go to vet-esp.
first time seeing this vet!!

Another thing--It should be a law that vets give handouts and have to do blood work before giving some of these bad drugs!

[forbiddenminni]

ok sorry i havent updated, i dont know what to do, every time we have gone to the VET they havent really gave a awnser on what could be going on with our dog. And he seems better every time were there, he hasnt had a fever. last eve SAT eve he seemed fine he started eating drinking and playing, then later on at night he just laid around.

Now this morning, he keeps shacking, Drooling Allot, his eyes are a little blood shot and dropy. We have been giving his meds on time every day, we havent changed anything, on what were doing, and just this morning he starts drooling allot and dropy blood shot eys,

I DONT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO, THIS HAS BEEN ALMOST A WEEK NOW.

Originally Posted by corky/max

as stated above --this is to look up about harmful side effects!





just posted the last post before i saw this post!

did the vet give any fluids intravenously??
How is your dog acting now? The same--still shaking? What the h**l is he hoping for?--a miracle? Sounds like 'bandaid ' (not even that!) medicine to me. Sorry if i sound 'mean'--the last post i just did can somewhat tell you that i am a little upset. Am going to put the names of the meds in my browser and see what i find---have suspicions that most of this is just to stop the diarrhea and what good is that going to do if the vet has no idea what he is doing---trying to stop the diarrhea is not stopping whatever is causing this problem.

they didnt give any fluids intravenously, " hunter " my dog is still shacking, drooling and acting miserable.

The vet, i dont know what he thinks

[CorkyMax]

You need to get a 2nd opinion NOW!!! And did you ask the vet about giving the fluids?! You shouldn't have to ask--I don't understand why he didn't do this--MY GOD!!! I know you are frustrated and it is prob. costing you money but I have to say this--If you don't do something about the fluids and seeing another vet---you may lose your dog!!! You do know that your dog can die from dehydration, do you not!? I have to be blunt here--I know no other way at this point!

Not saying this is the reason your dog is shaking but for one thing--It can be a sign that he is in pain! A lot of dogs will suffer in silence (not a good thing!)

[forbiddenminni]

Well, we called our local PETS emergency number and explained the situation from day one and all the medications we had given him! The receptionist didn't make it sound like it was TOO MAJOR so she told me that it was pretty much my call on whether to bring him in or not. The only issue I'm having is the cost to take him in there. Now don't get me wrong, we love our dog dearly and will be forking out money to get him better... I just don't want to take him in there if I know he can wait until the morning. The only problem is, I dont know how severe this is and if he can wait til the morning. Now he doesn't seemed dehydrated and he was eating and drinking yesterday and kept everything down. This just all occured this morning which is why I'm so confused! I was listening to his stomach and it just seemed to be making a lot of gurgling noises! I just dont know what to do... I'm scared for my dog. He's very active and still young and I dont want to lose him!!! Any more suggestions?! Did this ever happen to anyones dog before???

[cherylmartin]

My only suggestion now is to go with your gut feeling. You know how your furbaby normally acts and when things are out of the ordinary, then we worry. Since you are now doubting both vets, you have to make a choice. Locate another vet who is more willing to help you or stay with your first vet. I had to make that same choice, but it was too late. The vet could not save Jas, she was already too far gone with kidney failure.
I hope the best for you. I know what you are going thru-I really do. Please read her story and see what I went thru:Jasmine's Rainbow Residency at RainbowsBridge.com

Hugs,

Cheryl and Angel Jasmine
Jasmine was loved
Jasmine took Proin
Jasmine is gone

[forbiddenminni]

UPDATE on Hunter! So this morning he seemed 100% better!!! But, we were still concerned by the way he was acting yesterday so we called the vet. The vet recommended running some blood tests before we take our next action and continue giving him the medications we have. They are going to test his blood for pancreatitis because the signs and symptoms he's having could point to that. They also think something may still be stuck in his stomach but want to get the blood test results back before we go that route. For all of you who replied and we're concerned about our dog, we appreciate your concerns! We will keep you all posted on his results and what we decide to do next!!! But for now, he sure is acting like our dog. He is playing and wanting our attention!!!

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by forbiddenminni

UPDATE on Hunter! So this morning he seemed 100% better!!! But, we were still concerned by the way he was acting yesterday so we called the vet. The vet recommended running some blood tests before we take our next action and continue giving him the medications we have. They are going to test his blood for pancreatitis because the signs and symptoms he's having could point to that. They also think something may still be stuck in his stomach but want to get the blood test results back before we go that route. For all of you who replied and we're concerned about our dog, we appreciate your concerns! We will keep you all posted on his results and what we decide to do next!!! But for now, he sure is acting like our dog. He is playing and wanting our attention!!!

Glad to hear he is feeling better, But also glad the blood tests are finally going to be done. Did he have something obstructing his stomach---1st I heard of this? Has he already eaten today? Seems like he has the problems after eating. Don't wish to sound like 'a mother hen' or anything but hope you don't play too hard with him until you get it figured out what is wrong as this might trigger another episode!

You probably think I am overbearing (Lol, guess I am at times) but I love dogs and I feel so sorry for them when they are sick that I get 'carried away'--Sorry if I have upset you! And please do continue to keep us posted as we worry about the dog if we don't hear back! Hoping for some good news--at least finding out what the problem is so it can be taken care of and your dog getting back to good health. (and some relief for you too!)

[forbiddenminni]

Another update on Hunter... we got a call with the blood test results and everything came back fine!! There is nothing wrong with him! The vet told us to continue to give him his meds until they are gone and just monitor him! He seems to be doing so much better! He wants to play and is slowly starting to eat again! Not a lot, but its a start from him not eating anything at all. We still thought he may have something stuck in his stomach but the vet reassured us he wouldn't be as active as he is and would be getting worse if that was the case! Hopefully nothing changes and he continues to only get better!:mrgreen: