[CorkyMax]

Biotin is an essential water soluble vitamin which can be rendered unavailable by egg white !

Many clinical nutrition books discuss biotin (one of the water soluble vitamin B complex) as being an essential nutrient which can be bound by avidin, which is found in raw egg white. This binding prevents it's absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. Fortunately cooking deactivates this effect of avidin, and egg yolk is so high in biotin content that biotin deficiency does not occur when whole raw eggs are fed. So, whilst biotin deficiency is a potential problem - in reality it is unlikely to be seen in domesticated animals unless they are fed an extremely imbalanced ration that is predominantly egg white.

On the positive side - raw chicken egg white does of course have some nutritional value and contains the following :

88.3% water
9% protein
Trace of fat
Trace of carbohydrate
Minerals -
Sodium - 190mg/100g
Chlorine - 170mg/100g
Potassium - 150mg/100g
Phosphorus - 33mg/100g
Magnesium - 11mg/100g
Calcium - 5mg/100g
Vitamins and vitamin precursors
Tryptophan (an amino acid and niacin precursor in dogs and other species but not cats, mink or fish) - 2.6 mg/100g
Riboflavin - 0.43 mg/100g
Pantothenate 0.3 mg/100g
Folate - 13 mg/100g
Biotin - 7 mg/100g
Vitamin C - 0
Vitamin D -0
Vitamin E - 0
No dietary fibre
36 kcal energy per 100g

[Lara's mom]

What is the difference between an egg white and a "raw chicken egg white?"

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by Lara's mom

What is the difference between an egg white and a "raw chicken egg white?"

Biotin is an essential water soluble vitamin which can be rendered unavailable by egg white !Raw egg white is what is being referred to here.

Many clinical nutrition books discuss biotin (one of the water soluble vitamin B complex) as being an essential nutrient which can be bound by avidin, which is found in raw egg white. This binding prevents it's absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. Fortunately cooking deactivates this effect of avidin,Heat destroys the avidin effect! and Think it would also be better understood if the word But was used here instead of and! egg yolk is so high in biotin content that biotin deficiency does not occur when whole raw eggs are fed. So, whilst biotin deficiency is a potential problem - in reality it is unlikely to be seen in domesticated animals unless they are fed an extremely imbalanced ration that is predominantly egg white.


In a nutshell--Raw egg white prevents the B vitamin--Biotin from working but if you feed the whole yolk (raw) too--There is so much biotin in the yolk itself that it more than makes up for what the raw egg white can do on destroying the biotin. If you only fed raw egg white --without any yolk--(and who would, anyhow!?) then your dog would be lacking in Biotin.
Sorry, Lara--not sure if I answered your question completely--They mentioned chicken prob. because that is the type of egg white they are giving the nutritious data for.---Must be a little different for a duck/goose,etc egg white.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by Corky/Max

Biotin is an essential water soluble vitamin which can be rendered unavailable by egg white !Raw egg white is what is being referred to here.

Many clinical nutrition books discuss biotin (one of the water soluble vitamin B complex) as being an essential nutrient which can be bound by avidin, which is found in raw egg white. This binding prevents it's absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. Fortunately cooking deactivates this effect of avidin,Heat destroys the avidin effect! and Think it would also be better understood if the word But was used here instead of and! egg yolk is so high in biotin content that biotin deficiency does not occur when whole raw eggs are fed. So, whilst biotin deficiency is a potential problem - in reality it is unlikely to be seen in domesticated animals unless they are fed an extremely imbalanced ration that is predominantly egg white.


In a nutshell--Raw egg white prevents the B vitamin--Biotin from working but if you feed the whole yolk (raw) too--There is so much biotin in the yolk itself that it more than makes up for what the raw egg white can do on destroying the biotin. If you only fed raw egg white --without any yolk--(and who would, anyhow!?) then your dog would be lacking in Biotin.

How often do you generally feed eggs? I generally feed Lucky about 2 whole raw eggs per week (yolk and all).

[CorkyMax]

How often do you generally feed eggs? I generally feed Lucky about 2 whole raw eggs per week (yolk and all).
Prob. more than is recommended! I use to feed 1 every other day but recently it has been every day. I am trying to cut down on the oatmeal (grains) in the mornimgs--and also since Corky shouldn't have too much salt/sodium--I can't give cottage cheese anymore, and the canned salmon/mackerel has salt too (Rinsing is recommended but don't like the idea as a lot of nutrients being washed away.) The darn bread has salt too--I am going to make some in my bread machine soon though that will have no salt or hardly a smidgin. So in order to find something to feed in the morning--the good 'ole egg is very handy and it is good for them --the most complete protein food there is. Cholesterol supposedly doesn't affect the dog the way it does us. Think it was finally decided that eggs weren't that big a culprit for humans either. They get the whole egg too-the yolk and the white-uncooked--Even if I was concerned about the biotin thing--I am now giving vitamin B50 with plenty of biotin in it anyway! I save the shell to grind later and mix in with the meat as this is where the calcium gets depleted.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by Corky/Max

How often do you generally feed eggs? I generally feed Lucky about 2 whole raw eggs per week (yolk and all).
Prob. more than is recommended! I use to feed 1 every other day but recently it has been every day. I am trying to cut down on the oatmeal (grains) in the mornimgs--and also since Corky shouldn't have too much salt/sodium--I can't give cottage cheese anymore, and the canned salmon/mackerel has salt too (Rinsing is recommended but don't like the idea as a lot of nutrients being washed away.) The darn bread has salt too--I am going to make some in my bread machine soon though that will have no salt or hardly a smidgin. So in order to find something to feed in the morning--the good 'ole egg is very handy and it is good for them --the most complete protein food there is. Cholesterol supposedly doesn't affect the dog the way it does us. Think it was finally decided that eggs weren't that big a culprit for humans either. They get the whole egg too-the yolk and the white-uncooked--Even if I was concerned about the biotin thing--I am now giving vitamin B50 with plenty of biotin in it anyway! I save the shell to grind later and mix in with the meat as this is where the calcium gets depleted.

Have you ever tried just giving your dogs the whole egg? I haven't tried this yet with Lucky but it would probably be pretty interesting to see.

[Lara's mom]

Mine get whole eggs; scrambled with some cheese melted in.

[CorkyMax]

Corky ate a whole one once that had dropped on the floor--Lol, thought it was a good way for me not to clean it up--He is a big cleaner upper anyhow--always looking for food! He had no problem but I'd rather not do it this way as the shells can be pretty sharp---If your dog doesn't chew (and as a rule dogs don't chew much) can be some pretty big sharp pieces going down the throat--Not life-threatning but prob. doesn't feel too good! Besides a whole egg shell (instead of measuring the right ratio to the meat fed) is too much calcium for my 2 med. sized dogs at one time.

[Lunareclipse]

Originally Posted by Corky/Max

Corky ate a whole one once that had dropped on the floor--Lol, thought it was a good way for me not to clean it up--He is a big cleaner upper anyhow--always looking for food! He had no problem but I'd rather not do it this way as the shells can be pretty sharp---If your dog doesn't chew (and as a rule dogs don't chew much) can be some pretty big sharp pieces going down the throat--Not life-threatning but prob. doesn't feel too good! Besides a whole egg shell (instead of measuring the right ratio to the meat fed) is too much calcium for my 2 med. sized dogs at one time.

I have great cleaner uppers too. I call it my K9 Cleaning Service.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by Lunareclipse

I have great cleaner uppers too. I call it my K9 Cleaning Service.

I think I've got the same service

[CorkyMax]

Now, if these dog cleaning services were only shown how to clean up all that hair they shed--I might consider that service!:mrgreen:

[vm smith]

Originally Posted by CorkyMax

Corky ate a whole one once that had dropped on the floor--Lol, thought it was a good way for me not to clean it up--He is a big cleaner upper anyhow--always looking for food! He had no problem but I'd rather not do it this way as the shells can be pretty sharp---If your dog doesn't chew (and as a rule dogs don't chew much) can be some pretty big sharp pieces going down the throat--Not life-threatning but prob. doesn't feel too good! Besides a whole egg shell (instead of measuring the right ratio to the meat fed) is too much calcium for my 2 med. sized dogs at one time.

Shells are an excellent source of minerals. I let nine dry in a dish for a couple of days, and then just crush and pulverize it in my my hand and sprinkle over his whole raw egg. You can also use a coffee grinder or blender, The smaller you can make the pieces, the more surface area they'll have, and more will be absorbed.

[proudlez71]

unfortunately although eggs are great for dogs and cooking removes the nutritional needs within the egg the down side of raw eggs like with humans is salmonella poisoning and with the smaller dogs can be more deadly, please be advised that if you are going to feed raw eggs pay the additional price and buy eggs that have been pasteurized to kill the offending bacteria, I buy those for myself because my son loves raw cookie dough and we all love dippy eggs... safety is my utmost concern when feeding a holistic diet to myself, family and pets