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Coughing up white foam
My puppy (German Shepherd/Boxer mix @ 12 weeks) just started coughing up white foam this morning. He did it for the first time in the car 2 days ago, and I thought it was because he was looking over the backseat resting his chest on the seat, and a bump made him cough.
But, this morning he woke up coughing at like 6am. He coughed up white foam a couple of times. One time there was something red, but I felt around it was hard. I thought it might just be some bird food that fell on the ground because my bird has this circular red things (also may be what was stuck in his throat if that is a cause at all?).
He is a puppy (12 weeks) so yes he does sleep a lot, but I can't tell if it is unusual now or not. He also just started antibiotics for a bacterial infection (symptom that caused me to take him in: diarrhea). The first cough episode in the car was before he got the antibiotics- so I am not attributing it to that directly. His diarrhea has seemed to clear up (or beginning to clear up b/c it is not runny anymore).
He is doing it continuously now.... every so often. It looks painful as he runs around as he does it. I am going to take him to the vet today, but if anyone has any experience with this please let me know so I know to not let the vet turn me away. I told the vet last time that he did it in the car and she told me it was car sickness (which is obviously not true). Also, I am goign to a different vet because this one didn't check his ears, eyes, nose, body, anything, which my other vet did where I live. She did however check his fecal matter for the cause of diarrhea, say there were no viruses, so it must be bacterial... and gave him meds based on that assumption. (I am home visiting my parents). Also, she recommended that I give him yogurt or ricotta with his food because it might help his stomach.
He also has bad gas (but he's had that since the day I got him, so I wouldn't count it as a symptom).
I know this is very long but I am very worried. I was supposed to drive back today but I am waiting now to see what happens.
He seems sleepy now. Usually he wakes up and bothers my dad endlessly to play with him... but today he just layed there. He gets excited for a few seconds but then lays back down. He comes and sits close to me, I think he seems scared also b/c he coughs and looks up at me while he is running around.
Any help is appreciated. I hope this time I picked a better vet.
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What meds is your pup taking--You said antibiotics--Names? I doubt if your dog is on Rimadyl as that is for pain but I am asking about it anyhow? Also I am sure your pup has had some vaccinations recently--Could be adverse reactions to them--Hope it hasn't had rabies shot yet? Going to go copy some links to threads from this forum you might want to check out. Please Do not Give Rimadyl (carprofen)--CAN KILL
All About Vaccine Issues & Vaccinations, Dodds & Schultz 2/10
Attention-german shepherd/and gs mixes
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A suggestion: Do you see that blue strip with all the white words in it---goes across the pages in here--toward the top? Find the word search--click on it and put key words of what you want to know about--mainly keep the dotted word threads. Will bring up threads that may be in this forum that can give you some answers to some of your concerns.
I hope you find a good vet--They seem to be hard to find! Good luck! Keep us up to date on your little guy.
I would suggest also that you invest in a good vet book as it will answer many things for you and what you should do and not do! Check on Ebay and Amazon.com for good bargains in used as well as new books. The book I have is called Dog Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook by James M. Giffin MD & Liisa D. Carlson, DVM
Here is a visitor message I received from one member who wanted to know what book I had and wanted to get one too: I found the newest edition of the book you recommended. I paid more (about $22) but am happy with the newer info and think I still got a steal through Amazon.com. A new edition starts at $82. I got a used in good condition copy and am eagerly awaiting it's arrival. Thanks for the recommendation. I'm sure I will get a lot of use from it.
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Thanks for all the help. Apparently he has Caronavirus....
He has been put on 3 meds plus had an injection today and is now very sleepy, drowsy, whiney, etc.
He put down some food and is now passed out. Since he is only 12 weeks they say it can be fatal but she seems optimistic.... I am going back Saturday to make sure he is getting better. I guess they have to seem optimistic.
One med is a cough suppressant, the other is for the diarrhea (flagyl or something) and the other si an antibiotic called tussigen or something ( i droped hte perscriptino off so not exactly sure).
I hope he gets better
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I went ahead and read some of hte info you presented me with. My concern is since he is a mixed breed I am not sure what standards to go by.... boxer or GSD???
Is there any way to find out/tell? Is he more boxer/gsd.... in terms of personality, trainability, tempermant, health, etc....who knows!
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Glad you got an actual diagnosis. sorry I couldn't give you predictions and such but I was just able to get online and just saw the post. Here a quick overview from the net of what exactly it is your pup has...
Canine Coronavirus is widespread in the dog population worldwide. It invades the rapidly growing cells of the intestinal lining causing nausea, lack of appetite, vomiting and diarrhea. It is primarily a disease of puppies. Coronavirus is shed in the feces of infected dogs for months after initial ingestion. It takes one two three days from the time the puppy is exposed to an infected dog's stool for it to become visibly sick. The virus appeared suddenly in Europe in 1971, and some scientists speculate that Canine Coronavirus may have mutated from another coronavirus that causes a similar disease in pigs.
There are slight (antigenic) differences between coronavirus strains isolated from puppies with diarrhea. So puppies and dogs immune to a particular strain of Coronavirus may not be immune other strains of the virus.
Most dogs probably become infected with coronavirus and recover without getting ill or after a sickness too mild for owners to notice. We know this because most adult dogs have antibody to this disease which indicates that they were, at one time, exposed to the virus.
Canine Coronavirus is an RNA-type virus and a member of the Group I Coronaviruses. When the virus is viewed under an electron microscope the particles have a halo-like crown of projections or “Corona”.
Coronavirus is surrounded by a fatty protective coating which makes it rather easy to kill with detergent and solvents that dissolve fats. This is in contrast to Parvovirus, which is very tough and hard to kill. Coronavirus is spread from dog to dog through infected feces.
Within 2-3 days of ingesting the virus, coronavirus can be found in the upper two-thirds of the pet's small intestine. In very rare cases the virus may also invade the spleen, liver and brain and lungs.
During this same period diarrhea begins. Diarrhea usually lasts 2-7 days. The diarrhea is due to mal absorption of nutrients and a deficiency in digestive enzymes.
Most infected dogs shed coronavirus in their stools for 6-9 days. But shedding can be prolonged in some pups. Most puppies recover after a few days of diarrhea and poor appetite. However, puppies less than three months of age may die of the virus if they are weakened in some other way. This could be due to a second disease, being the runts of the litter or come from over-bred, poorly maintained mothers.
Puppies with coronavirus rarely have a fever. This is true of many infections in puppies because they loose body heat so rapidly.
When I feel the tummies of these puppies they are often bloated and tight. I can usually feel gas-filled tender loops of intestine and enlarged mesenteric lymph nodes in their abdomens.
*From my research, there is NO CURE for this disease so the main thing you want to do is strengthen the dog's immune system so it can fight the disease off itself. here are some online tips on this...
For The Diarrhea:
We give give medicines that relax intestinal spasms such as metoclopramide. In severe cases, we might also prescribe loperamide, oral opiods or diphenoxylate (Lomotil).
Compounds that protect the inner surfaces of the inflamed intestines can also be helpful. Common ones include: famotidine (Pepcid ), cimetidine (Tagament) and sucralfate (Carafate). But we can not use them until the vomiting has been controlled.
Here are also some natural remedies...
L-Glutamine - An amino acid which fuels intestinal cells and helps maintain mucosal cell integrity.
Slippery Elm - An emollient that provides soothing protection for the mucus membranes of the intestinal tract.
Saccharomyces boulardi - a beneficial yeast that decreases intestinal permeability.
N-acetyglucosamine - Helps heal the inflamed bowel lining by supporting glycoprotein synthesis.
Lactobacillus sporogenes - A probiotic that has been shown to help treat diarhea caused by bacterial overgrowth.
DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice) - supports the healing process in the intestinal lining by increasing blood flow and reducing muscle spasms.
Also add canned pumpkin to the dogs food. NOT PIE FILLER. Straight canned pumpkin. Ad 2-3 tablespoons per day.
Some peppermint tea or chamomile tea can help with stomach upset.
Diet Is Very Important
Don't fee a raw diet here because this could be probelmatic for a dog with a compromised immune system. Try boiled chicken and well cooked rice. \
For Vomiting:
Medications that stop vomiting are called anti-emetics. We often inject one called metoclopramide (Reglan). Chlorpromazine (Thorazine); and prochlorperazine (Compazine) are also used.
Sometimes, Pepto-Bismol in small amounts is helpful.
Here are some natural remedies...
Catnip
Catnip is an excellent herb for calming a dog with a nervous stomach - it is effective in stopping bouts of acute vomiting caused by stressful events. Use a glycerine tincture for this purpose. (about 12-20 drops for every 20 lb. of body weight).
Fennel
Fennel, when combined with catnip, is also useful to prevent vomiting due to nervousness.
Ginger
For vomiting caused by motion sickness, ginger is a good choice.
Alfalfa
Alfalfa is rich in vitamin K, and helps the rebuilding of the intestinal wall and other mucous membranes. It also balances hyperacidity in the digestive tract and has been traditionally used for digestive ailments.
Dog Vomiting Remedies - Homeopathy
Homeopathic remedies are effective in treating acute onset of vomiting in dogs. It is therefore useful to stock up on some essential homeopathic remedies in your dog first aid kit for needy situations.
Arsenicum album
This is an effective remedy for vomiting (and diarrhea), caused especially by food poisoning, garbage eating, and other toxic poisoning. Dogs needing this remedy are restless and thirsty. They also feel nausea and chilly. Vomiting may be painful and the vomitus is very often foul-smelling.
Ipecac
If you dog vomits as a result of overeating or having eaten some rich foods, this remedy is appropriate. Usually the vomiting is accompanied by nausea which cannot be relieved even by vomiting.
Nux vomica
This remedy is effective for vomiting as a result of drug reactions. Dogs who need Nux are usually chilly and irritable. Vomiting may be painful and may also be accompanied by painful diarrhea.
Pulsatilla
If your dog vomits undigested food several hours after eating, try this remedy. Dogs needing this remedy are chilly and not thirsty. They tend to be very "clingy" and crave undivided attention from people.
Acupressure Point. The ST36 point, located on the outside of the hind leg below the knee may be effective; press it for 1 minute twice daily for 3-5 days to see if it helps.
Flowers to the Rescue: Bach Rescue Remedy can make your pet feel a little better about their illness. Give your pet 3-4 drops by mouth every 6 hours.
HYDRATION IS VERY IMPORTANT!
Dog's with vomiting or diarrhea can be easily dehydrated so always make sure fresh water is near them and coax them to drink extra if you can. Add a bit of chicken broth which MUST BE SODIUM FREE. Soduim is salt which causes worse dehydration.
Pedialyte may help too.
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND**
Antibiotic Protection:
Antibiotics do not destroy coronavirus. But we often give them to give the pup protection from other bacteria that may attack its weakened system.
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*****The main thing here is targeted at helping to strengthen your dog's immune system which will in turn help fight off the disease. Here are ways to assist with that process...
Go to the store and buy plain unflavored, or vanilla, yogurt that contains acidophilus.
Add a tablespoon of yogurt to your dog's meal twice daily. For larger dogs (dog's larger than 100 lbs.) add 2 tablespoons.
Add herbs such as echinacea, olive leaves or astragalus to your dog's diet periodically, such as once or twice a week. These herbs--especially astragalus--can assist in balancing your dog's adrenal glands, blood pressure and sugars. Astragalus membranaceus, which is known as huang qi in traditional Chinese medicine, is used to strengthen the immune system. It provides antioxidants in the body, fights respiratory problems, protects the liver and it can also treat disease such as diabetes and helps control high blood pressure. You can get these in tablet or liquid form from an herbalist shop or an herbal veterinarian.
Neem
The most important characteristic of Neem (neem tea, neem leaf) is, boosting both the lymphocyte and cell-mediated immune system. Neem boosts the production of T-cells, which defense your dogs body when attacks to the immune system occur.
Vitamin C
Vitamin C is crucial for boosting your dogs immune system. Vitamin C has essential antiviral and antibacterial activity, but its main effect is improvement of host resistance.
Omega Fatty Acids
Omega fatty acids are important for your dogs immune system, skin and coat health. Omega fatty acids boost food utilization and energy production. Evening primrose oil is most effective (omega 6 fatty acid), followed by flaxseed oil and fish oil (omega 3 fatty acid).
Zinc
Zinc deficiency increases the risk of infection. Studies show that zinc supplements can boost the immune system, promote wound healing, and help develop white blood cells.
A product I would recommend is called K-9 Immunity. It is designed to strengthen the immune systems of dogs that are suffering from cancer and I'm sure it would help your dogs too because of its weak immune system.
Since your dog is coughing this probably indicates that we have a respiratory issue as well. Here's some info from online...
Canine Respiratory Coronavirus
We now know that a second type of dog coronavirus exists. This strain, known as Group II, affects the dog's respiratory tract rather than its intestine. It causes coughing, sneezing and a nasal discharge. It is one of the organisms involved in what we call "kennel cough" or CIRD. When it is a problem, it is usually working in combination with other disease organisms. It is seen most often when large numbers of dogs are housed together such as in boarding kennel, animal shelters, dog shows and dog race tracks.
Your vet gave you something for the coughing so that's a plus.
Here are some homeopathic ingredients that may help...
In the beginning stages, if your dog is suffering from a dry and retching cough use a treatment of Drosera. If the cough has progressed into a more rattling or phlegmy sounding cough, try using Dulcamara. For a serious cough, which is producing mucus, use Coccus. All three remedies are great for battling cough symptoms.
1. Raw Honey.
Raw honey can ease the pain of coughing. It can be added to a warm cup of water. Try to give it to your dog and see if it will drink it. If your dog doesn't like its taste, you can use a medicine dropper and administer the solution straight into your dog's mouth. Give your dog a few drops every hour or whenever you deem necessary.
2. Wild Cherry Bark.
Wild cherry bark provides a cooling effect to the dog's throat. This is an astringing bitter herb so you might have problems giving it to your dog. Then again, it can stop coughing and reduce inflammation in the throat. There are wild cherry bark teas, syrups, and tinctures available from herbal stores today.
The recommended dosage for children should be good enough for your pet. It is also possible to mix thirty drops of wild cherry bark tincture to an ounce of distilled water and give it to your pet to quench its thirst.
3. Peppermint.
Peppermint leaves can be made into a tea and adminstered to your dog in medicine dropper. Make a very strong peppermint tea. You can add honey to it as well. There are peppermint tea bags available at health stores. The dosage is a few drops every hour up until the coughing disappears.
4. Yerba Santa.
Yerba Santa is best used for kennel coughs with phlegm. Like peppermint, you have to make a strong tea out of this herb. There are also tinctures available and you can use them instead. Just add a few drops to your dog's water every hour. Yerba Santa works as a mild decongestant and an expectorant. Fifteen to twenty-five drops of Yerba Santa tincture can be added to an ounce of distilled water for best results.
These are the common natural treatments given to dogs with kennel cough. However, if you don't want to go through the preparations of these treatments, there are natural medicines for dogs ready available for you. All you have to do is to follow the instructions on the label. Since they are considered natural remedies or supplements, you don't need to go to the vet to purchase them. Most of them are even available over the internet for easy access.
This disease could potentially be fatal but you were one step ahead of the game and made a diagnosis so you def. should remail very, very optimistic. Here's a quote from the web...
Canine Coronavirus ties with Canine Parvovirus as the leading viral causes of diarrhea in puppies. Clinically, the two infections can be indistinguishable. But they are quite different in their final effect - Canine Coronavirus rarely kills the puppy while Canine Parvovirus often does.
Good luck and I hope everything goes alright. You and your pup are in my prayers. sorry I gave you so much info...
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I went ahead and read some of hte info you presented me with. My concern is since he is a mixed breed I am not sure what standards to go by.... boxer or GSD???
Is there any way to find out/tell? Is he more boxer/gsd.... in terms of personality, trainability, tempermant, health, etc....who knows!
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Standards for medication dosing? I'd ask the vet. Do you have a picture of him? What are his measurements and weight? Ever see the mother or father?
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I meant standards for everything. As in... do I base what I do with him off of the boxer breed or GSD breed? There are definitely similarities here and there but a lot is so very different.
And since Boxer/GSD is not a common mix it's difficult for me to find a lot of info.
He is 3 months... 30 lbs... more of a GSD build so far.
The mother I saw, seemingly healthy, pure GSD, probably 65 lbs or so.
My puppy is very healthy beyond this, according to the vet.
His pic was taken today while we were sitting/relaxing outside for some fresh air before going to the vet.
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I meant standards for everything. As in... do I base what I do with him off of the boxer breed or GSD breed? There are definitely similarities here and there but a lot is so very different.
And since Boxer/GSD is not a common mix it's difficult for me to find a lot of info.
He is 3 months... 30 lbs... more of a GSD build so far.
The mother I saw, seemingly healthy, pure GSD, probably 65 lbs or so.
My puppy is very healthy beyond this, according to the vet.
His pic was taken today while we were sitting/relaxing outside for some fresh air before going to the vet.
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He looks great! Very cute!
Here are the standards for female shepherds...
Weight...
Male 30–40 kilograms (66–88 lb)
Height...
Male 60–65 centimetres (24–26 in)
Here are the standards for male boxers...
Weight...
Male 65–99 lb (29–45 kg)
Height...
Male 22-25 ins. (56-63 cms.)
I would take something in the middle. You aren;t basing this info off of medications dosages are you? It just came to me that they will list how much per weight of the dog currently. You are wondering how big she may be , right? If so you never can tell because you don't know which genes the dog may have inherited but a good ball park estimate given the male standards for the given breeds I'd say...
somewhere between 22-26 inches and somewhere between 65 and 100 pounds. I wouldn'y say 100 but it's possible. My guess would be about 75-80 pounds but who knows? Will be a fairly large dog I would think. The mother was 65 pounds which is normal for a female but she still carries genes from male ancestors. Beautiful pup though!
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She is actually a HE-- Jackson. If I had to guess I'd say about 70-80 as well based on how fast he is growing now and what the mother looked like.
Size is not that important to me really, he will be what he is. I wanted a big dog. If he's 100 i will be shocked but it won't really matter. Ideally I was hoping for 60-70 and originally I wanted a female for that reason.... but I liked him much better than any other of hte litter so I didn't let that hold me back.
WHen I was talking about GSD VS Boxer I meant in terms of training, personality, and food sensitivities (esp since I keep hearing GSDs have sensitive stomachs). So I'm not sure what to base my final info on but I guess experience will be most of what it comes from.
He has traits of both in him... the face...coat...body... etc.
I guess we will see! I really hope he gets through this! THe more I read online the more nervous I get so I've given up googling Coronavirus!
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She is actually a HE-- Jackson. If I had to guess I'd say about 70-80 as well based on how fast he is growing now and what the mother looked like.
Size is not that important to me really, he will be what he is. I wanted a big dog. If he's 100 i will be shocked but it won't really matter. Ideally I was hoping for 60-70 and originally I wanted a female for that reason.... but I liked him much better than any other of hte litter so I didn't let that hold me back.
WHen I was talking about GSD VS Boxer I meant in terms of training, personality, and food sensitivities (esp since I keep hearing GSDs have sensitive stomachs). So I'm not sure what to base my final info on but I guess experience will be most of what it comes from.
He has traits of both in him... the face...coat...body... etc.
I guess we will see! I really hope he gets through this! THe more I read online the more nervous I get so I've given up googling Coronavirus!
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Oh sorry about that. Not sure why I said she because I gave you the size standards for a male afterall.
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Oh sorry about that. Not sure why I said she because I gave you the size standards for a male afterall.
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haha no prob. I figured as much but wasn't 100% sure.
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[quote=WorriedMom;86028]Thanks for all the help. Apparently he has Caronavirus.... Sorry to hear this but at least it is not Parvovirus which is more deadly. But, yes this can be very serious too so take good care and be a good nurse and a 'mother hen' too! Hope all goes well!
[QUOTE=WorriedMom;86055]I meant standards for everything. As in... do I base what I do with him off of the boxer breed or GSD breed? There are definitely similarities here and there but a lot is so very different. I would be aware of all things to do with either of the breeds and when it says to follow info for one of the breeds---Do it to be on the safe side--esp. with health concerns as the link I gave you for the Shepherd concerning not being able to get the nutrition from their food. Some more on German Shepherd problems: Blue Buffalo Dog food This is a long thread but info on a couple things you should see so please read it all --esp. posts 21, 22, 24, 26 and 27!
I would suggest ignoring posts 20, 23, and 28--(no comment!) There is also info on that heart problem in this thread also--so hope you start from the beginning of this thread.
And since Boxer/GSD is not a common mix it's difficult for me to find a lot of info. And here is another link to do with (among others)Boxers and a heart disease they are prone to--so follow the 'message' for the Boxer part of your dog!! Check this article carefully--you will see the word Boxer there:
Dilated Cardiomyopathy (Heart Disease) Haven't time right now but if you would like a run-down on Boxer health problems (prone to) Let me know and will do later. You are aware that you can put words like : dog/boxer/health problems --in your browser and prob. find things.
I would not use vanilla flavored yogurt because it is full of sugar! See link I gave you--About yogurt (previous post above )---Prob best to get a probiotic pill esp. for dogs as they have different needs than what the human variety gives and may not be of any use to the dog--very iffy on this stuff!
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[quote=Corky/Max;86089][quote=WorriedMom;86028]Thanks for all the help. Apparently he has Caronavirus.... Sorry to hear this but at least it is not Parvovirus which is more deadly. But, yes this can be very serious too so take good care and be a good nurse and a 'mother hen' too! Hope all goes well!
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I meant standards for everything. As in... do I base what I do with him off of the boxer breed or GSD breed? There are definitely similarities here and there but a lot is so very different. I would be aware of all things to do with either of the breeds and when it says to follow info for one of the breeds---Do it to be on the safe side--esp. with health concerns as the link I gave you for the Shepherd concerning not being able to get the nutrition from their food. Some more on German Shepherd problems: Blue Buffalo Dog food This is a long thread but info on a couple things you should see so please read it all --esp. posts 21, 22, 24, 26 and 27!
I would suggest ignoring posts 20, 23, and 28--(no comment!) There is also info on that heart problem in this thread also--so hope you start from the beginning of this thread.
And since Boxer/GSD is not a common mix it's difficult for me to find a lot of info. And here is another link to do with (among others)Boxers and a heart disease they are prone to--so follow the 'message' for the Boxer part of your dog!! Check this article carefully--you will see the word Boxer there:
Dilated Cardiomyopathy (Heart Disease) Haven't time right now but if you would like a run-down on Boxer health problems (prone to) Let me know and will do later. You are aware that you can put words like : dog/boxer/health problems --in your browser and prob. find things.
I would not use vanilla flavored yogurt because it is full of sugar! See link I gave you--About yogurt (previous post above )---Prob best to get a probiotic pill esp. for dogs as they have different needs than what the human variety gives and may not be of any use to the dog--very iffy on this stuff!
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I agree. You never kow which genes your dog will inherit from which parent for sure. Not just physical characteristicas but health problems and such. Better to prepare and take a proactive/preventitive approach keeping both breeds in mind.
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How is your fur baby doing? Are you seeing any signs of improvement?
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05-06-2010
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Originally Posted by Lara's mom
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He hasn't coughed at all today. Is running around and being annoying (stole my headphones right out of my computer /ear today) like a normal little puppy. This sickness has made him a little more cuddly. If i sit on the ground he comes over and sits with me instead of sleeping alone under the table.
I also let him sleep in my room on the floor last night instead of in his crate so i could hear him whine if he needed. He got up to cough once and pee but other than that he's was good through the night and up til now. I am going back in on Saturday for a checkup.
I am hoping he will be fine. He is sleeping a lot more than usual but his appetite is still going (not as much as usual but 3x a daywith just a a scoop less than normal). He is also drinking a lot of water and is staying well hydrated.
I think he will be OK once it is flushed from his system.... however long that takes.
Only thing I"m worried about is the no contact with other dogs for 2-3 weeks. He's at that age wehre he should be socializing.... I guess we will just have to do some catching up when he is 100% better.
Thanks for asking!!!
Last edited by WorriedMom; 05-06-2010 at 05:15 PM.
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05-06-2010
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He hasn't coughed at all today. Is running around and being annoying (stole my headphones right out of my computer /ear today) like a normal little puppy. This sickness has made him a little more cuddly. If i sit on the ground he comes over and sits with me instead of sleeping alone under the table.
I also let him sleep in my room on the floor last night instead of in his crate so i could hear him whine if he needed. He got up to cough once and pee but other than that he's was good through the night and up til now. I am going back in on Saturday for a checkup.
I am hoping he will be fine. He is sleeping a lot more than usual but his appetite is still going (not as much as usual but 3x a daywith just a a scoop less than normal). He is also drinking a lot of water and is staying well hydrated.
I think he will be OK once it is flushed from his system.... however long that takes.
Only thing I"m worried about is the no contact with other dogs for 2-3 weeks. He's at that age wehre he should be socializing.... I guess we will just have to do some catching up when he is 100% better.
Thanks for asking!!!
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So glad to hear he's doing much better!
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05-19-2010
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Hello all!!
My puppy has seemed to be doing OK. His playful nature and appetite has remained the same since he's gotten sick. He wetnt through antibiotic treatment and all.
He no longer has diarrhea (knock on wood). It's been gone for about 4 day snow.
He does not cough up white foam anymore either.
However, he does make a hacking/coughing noise (like found in kennel cough).
He also has just startd having a runny nose in hte past 4 days. This morning it was tinted almost yellow/green.
The vet really says there is nothing I can do but treat him normal and hope he gets better. He has his 2nd dose of bordatella coming up in a week.
If anyone has any experience witht his type of thing please do let me know. I'm getting owrried. His nose is runnign clear now during the day... but he came in from being outisde 10 minutes nad had snot dripping down his nose and face.
Also, at night, he makes ewird noises like his breathing isn't as easy.
He also makes a weird noise as if he sucking his snot in and out (if that amkes sense and doesn't gross you out). He does this 4-5 times when he does do it.
Any help is appreciated.
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05-19-2010
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Did you vet say he has Canine respiratory coronavirus? This is what it sounds like because of all the respiratory symptoms. It's a slightly different strain than just the standard canine coronavirus.
This info should be helpful...
Animal Health
According to my research, this disease and its symptoms should clear up in under 2 weeks. Seems like this is dragging on with your dog, or at least some of the respiratory symptoms. There could potentially be another infection your dog is suffering from as well partially due to a weakened immune system from the coronavirus. There are several possibilities, including these from the link I gave to you...
"However, co-infection with other pathogens such as distemper virus or Bordetella bronchiseptica will extend the quarantine time since these agents can be shed for months."
I would talk to your vet again about this and ask if any testing can be done to rule out secondary infections.
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