[cherylmartin]

Stella, 2 yo Schnorkie, vomitted yellow flim Monday morning before eating. Ate her food and was OK that night. Tuesday ate her food(Natural Balance) OK then at 4 PM threw it all up. Wednesday took to vet and his suspects her tonsils but did a berrium (sp) treatment twice and took xrays just to make sure nothing was there-showed nothing-took home nausea meds and amoxicillin and began treatment-only gave her a T spoon of food every 3 hrs-came up Thursday morning-Friday started diluted ck broth with rice at 1 T every 2 hrs-threw that up Friday nite-Saturday returned to vets for more nausea meds and began just broth-just now threw all that up!! OK what should I do to stop the vomitting?? She is still playing with toys, wanting to run around etc. Not lethargic at all!

Thanks

[cigwyllt]

Have you actually starved her completely for a twenty four hour period yet? I would start with that - make sure she's drinking of course - but 24 hours with nothing to eat at all and then tiny amounts of boiled rice and fish rather than chicken. Sometimes chicken can be that little bit too rich.

[cherylmartin]

I started the 24 hr today and even pedilite with honey (2 T) wont stay down.

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by cherylmartin

Stella, 2 yo Schnorkie, vomitted yellow flim Monday morning before eating. Ate her food and was OK that night. Tuesday ate her food(Natural Balance) OK then at 4 PM threw it all up. Wednesday took to vet and his suspects her tonsils but did a berrium (sp) treatment twice and took xrays just to make sure nothing was there-showed nothing-took home nausea meds and amoxicillin and began treatment-only gave her a T spoon of food every 3 hrs-came up Thursday morning-Friday started diluted ck broth with rice at 1 T every 2 hrs-threw that up Friday nite-Saturday returned to vets for more nausea meds and began just broth-just now threw all that up!! OK what should I do to stop the vomitting?? She is still playing with toys, wanting to run around etc. Not lethargic at all!

Thanks

Sorry to hear of the problem with your Stella. You know not to let her get dehydrated I am sure. Have you checked her poop since this problem started (Monday)---prob. not doing much pooping right now if not able to keep the food down. Odor, consistency and color etc. of the poo, can tell you a lot sometimes. Have a vet book that can give you an idea of what/where the prob. might be by checking on the poo. If you can describe it --I can check my book on it. Also will quote some sentences from my book on vomiting: The most common cause of vomiting is eating indigestible substances such as grass that irritate the lining of the stomach.

Vomiting occurs with most acute infectious disease. It also occurs with many chronic diseases, including kidney and liver failure, Cushing's syndrome and diabetes mellitus.
To determine the cause of vomiting, note whether it is repeated, and if so, whether it is sporadic or persistent. How soon after eating does it occur? Is it projectile? Inspect the vomitus for blood, fecal material, foreign objects and worms.
HOME TREATMENT OF VOMITING:
If there is any question about the cause or seriousness of the vomiting, seek veterinary help. Vomiting dogs can dehydrate rapidly as they lose body fluids and electrolytes. Home treatment is appropriate only for normal, healthy adult dogs. Puppies and old dogs are less able to toerate dehydration and should be treated by a veterinarian.
--An important initial step is to rest the stomach by withholding food and water for a minimum of 12 hrs. If the vomiting stops with stomach rest, the dog can be permitted to lick a few ice chips every 3-4 hrs. If the vomiting has stopped, offer 1/4 to 1/2 cup of water (depending on the size of the dog) every 2-3 hrs. A pediatric electrolyte solution can be given in small amounts in addition to the water. This is available (Pedialyte) over-the-counter in pharmacies and grocery stores. Dilute it 1/2 with water and add it to your dog's drinking bowl. If the dog won't drink the electrolyte solution, offer water only.
--After 12 hrs. with no vomiting, start the dog on a bland diet such as 2 parts boiled rice mixed with 1 part hamburger. (Boil the hamburger to remove the fat--fat delays stomach emptying.) Other bland foods that may be substituted are cottage cheese, strained meat baby food and chicken and rice soup. Begin by offering small amounts (1 or 2 tablespoons at a time) every 2-3 hrs. Increase the volume over the next 2 days and gradually return the dog to his customary diet.
--Stop all food and water and obtain immediate veterinary assistance when:
1.--Vomiting persists despite the fact that the dog has received no food or water for several hrs.
2.--Vomiting recurs during attempts to introduce food and water.
3.--Vomiting is accompanied by diarrhea.
4.--The dog vomits fresh blood or material that looks like coffee grounds.
5.--The dog becomes weak and lethargic or shows signs of systemic illness.--End of vet book quotes.

Food for thought---Did she eat a fatty meal/food before this started? Could she have eaten a bunch of grass? (Any in the vomit at all?) Could she have eaten a plant outside (or inside) that was not good for dogs? Will leave you with the thread on Things/Foods that are Hazardous to a dog at bottom of this post. I would look up on colitis; pancreatitis: and that med--amoxicillin (I know you are good at checking things out) Maybe you got hold of a bad batch of dog food or it got spoiled from too much hot weather. Maybe she needs a new dog food. This is me just trying to be a detective here--You live in the south--Worst location I just read for fleas and ticks--I don't know if they could somehow cause Stella to be sick---cause diseases I know--lymes disease, etc. Have you recently put flea meds on her that are different or too much for her. My dog can't handle flea meds. You don't have a flea collar on her I hope. My brother overdoes things by using flea shampoo, flea collar (and this did make his dog sick) and the meds too--way too much 'stuff'----Damn stuff is all poison!

Will go retrieve the thread on hazardous things now--Be right back--Stay tuned!-------Here it is:Foods that are hazardous to a dog

Darn! I should of checked the net 1st before I spent so much time copying from my vet book! Guess I am still leery of infections/viruses, etc. Anyway here is a good link to check out--repeats a lot of what I already posted but a lot more info there too: Causes, Diagnosis and Treatment of Vomiting in Dogs

[cherylmartin]

Stella eats Natural Balance dry food, is not running a temp, is still running around playing but throwing up. Yes she does like to craze but has been doing this since the first day I brought her home. She eats no fatty foods. The vet did take xrays and did not see any obstruction. Her tonsils look inflamed but not terrible. Poo (what there was of it) loose with grass in it-no odor

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by cherylmartin

Stella eats Natural Balance dry food, is not running a temp, is still running around playing but throwing up. Yes she does like to craze but has been doing this since the first day I brought her home. She eats no fatty foods. The vet did take xrays and did not see any obstruction. Her tonsils look inflamed but not terrible. Poo (what there was of it) loose with grass in it-no odor

Maybe she is vomiting because of eating grass then----hopefully that would be the best answer.

This is from my vet book on the poo characteristics:

Characteristics of Diarrea
Condition of the Dog--Vomiting--likely cause-Enteritis
likely location-Small bowel, rarely colon
My vet book tells about a couple types of Enteritis--Granulomatous (Regional) Enteritis and Acute Infectious Enteritis. Before I write out what is in my book--I am going to check on the web---You could too--Just put dogs/enteritis in your browser (or dogs/(and the specific kind--the 2 above)

My computer is old and I need a new tower (ram) so everytime I look anything up--I get a message that my virtual memory is low and my computer stalls so may be faster if you look things up--But I will try and if I can't find what it details in my book--Will be back and type out what book 'says' on it.


Here is one link:Dog Vomiting, Dog Acute Gastritis, Chronic Gastritis Symptoms and Treatment on MedicineNet

Be back with more probably--Hang on!

I just found a site that is the same book I have on this subject (newer version, but pretty much word for word as my book) I hope this site comes up on the right page---a lot of subjects there--May have to scroll till you find the subject(s).---> Dog Owner's Home Veterinary Handbook - Google Books

[cherylmartin]

Corky/Max.

There is no diarrea-even after he gave Stella two barium enimas nothing flowed thru so to speak. Nothing showed up from the xrays either. He did say her tonsils were a little irrated (they are).
When I go in Monday, assuming she is not better, is there any other test I need for him to run before he 'opens' her up to see what is going on?

Thanks

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by cherylmartin

Corky/Max.

There is no diarrea-even after he gave Stella two barium enimas nothing flowed thru so to speak. Nothing showed up from the xrays either. He did say her tonsils were a little irrated (they are).
When I go in Monday, assuming she is not better, is there any other test I need for him to run before he 'opens' her up to see what is going on?

Thanks

Did the vet do any bloodwork, check fecal for worms, etc.--heartworm and check for these things: Vomiting occurs with most acute infectious disease. It also occurs with many chronic diseases, including kidney and liver failure, Cushing's syndrome and diabetes mellitus. I can't believe she is going to be opened up for this problem--unless there is something I/WE don't know about--What the vet expects to find, etc!!? What did the vet say about why he is opening her up??
Do you watch her when she is outside to see what she may be eating--like the grass?

[cherylmartin]

Corky/Max,Vet tech mentioned 'opening' up-not vet and I would not let that happen w/o blood work first and other tests! Vet did all of this when I adopted her and she is on Heartguard. I watch her like a hawk when she is outside! She loves to chase butterflies, bees, birds (interupts her doing potty breaks too). And reach over and get crickets out of the pool. She also likes to play with wood chips, roots, toss them in the air and throws them around. I personally think she irritated her insides by chewing on a large piece of cedar (her favorite) I was removing from the yard. Last nite there was no evidence that she got sick-so I'll continue her 'water' diet until later today and gradually add food. She is soooo hungry and still very playful-not lethargic or sickly acting! But thanks for taking the time to offer me alternatives as to what might be wrong. I'll keep you posted.

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by cherylmartin

Corky/Max,Vet tech mentioned 'opening' up-not vet and I would not let that happen w/o blood work first and other tests!So glad to hear this--I was interpreting it as a 'done deal!' Vet did all of this when I adopted her and she is on Heartguard. I watch her like a hawk when she is outside! She loves to chase butterflies, bees, birds (interupts her doing potty breaks too). And reach over and get crickets out of the pool.These last 2 sentences sent up 'flares' for me. There are disease that a dog can get from ingesting stagnant water/water that birds/rabbits, etc have pooped in, etc. It made me think of what my back yard neighbor had said once about his dog (or a friend's dog) having caught this disease from ingesting water from bird droppings---Darn, he couldn't tell me what the name of the disease was! I just looked on the net--Put dog/diseases/birds/water in my browser. Here is a link on this subject:
http://www.ehow.co.uk/video_4757654_...rd-rabbit.html She also likes to play with wood chips, roots, toss them in the air and throws them around. I personally think she irritated her insides by chewing on a large piece of cedar (her favorite) I was removing from the yard. Last nite there was no evidence that she got sick-so I'll continue her 'water' diet until later today and gradually add food. She is soooo hungry and still very playful-not lethargic or sickly acting! But thanks for taking the time to offer me alternatives as to what might be wrong. I'll keep you posted.

Glad she is feeling okay and yes please keep us posted! Maybe you could ask the vet if you talk to him again--about bird /wild animal feces in water causing problems and what the symptoms might be--Guess you could look up symptoms on the net too.

[cherylmartin]

I'm not sure she in on the mends just yet! Will see when I re introduce chicken and rice later this afternoon. I have no standing water in the back yard but when she leans over the pool to catch a cricket, I'm sure she gets some of that water but it only has chlorine in it. But thanks for the thought.

[cherylmartin]

Well we need your prayers, good vibes whatever you want to call it. Stella vomited again this morning and vet will do exploritory surgery in the morning. He did another berium with food and xrayed the 'trip'-stopping after it leaves the stomach.

Thank you

[CorkyMax]

Oh, Cheryl--I was hoping for good news! Will be thinking about you and Stella tomorrow---and hoping everything goes okay and you get to the bottom of the problem. Prayers be with you and Stella. Did the vet give you any idea as to what he might be thinking is wrong? Keep us posted when you can.

[lange]

best wishes for Stella. I hope they find what's wrong so she can start feeling better.

[cherylmartin]

He did exploritory surgery and did not find any obstructions. So he checked the pyloric sphincter (pyloric stenosis) and it had thicken so he repaired it the best he could. Has anyone had any experience with this?

[CorkyMax]

Glad things are 'good'----Sounds like it is fixed. How is Stella doing? I just looked up on the net--Put in my browser: dogs/pyloric stenosis --and a lot came up. Here is one link: Pyloric Stenosis: A Cause of Vomiting in Dogs

If you put those words in your browser, you will find much more. I would put more links here but have to get my butt in gear--looking like rain and I want to go out and dig up some lily bulbs to plant on Corky's grave. Don't know what combo of colors I will end up with--meant to mark the colors before the flowering quit, lol, guess I will be surprised next summer.

Give Stella a hug for me and hope she gets in tip top shape real fast. Bet you are relieved that the surgery is over! Keep us updated on her progress.

[cherylmartin]

Well not out of the woods just yet but she is doing so good vet let her have a sleep over at home! Sent 1 t of very soft food for her to eat and she can lick on ice cubes. Take her back in the morning for SQ treatment and if Stella does OK again-she can have another sleep over!

Still need prayers and good vibes.

And thank you everyone.

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by cherylmartin

Well not out of the woods just yet but she is doing so good vet let her have a sleep over at home! Sent 1 t of very soft food for her to eat and she can lick on ice cubes. Take her back in the morning for SQ treatment and if Stella does OK again-she can have another sleep over!

Still need prayers and good vibes.

And thank you everyone.

First I've been in forum since a day or so ago--so just saw this post. Glad things are looking more 'up!' Still keeping you both in my thoughts. Looking forward to hearing Stella is 100%!