[CorkyMax]

As usual when I am searching for specific things for someone I often come across other articles that are good to read/study! This is one of them. A lot here and it scrolls so fast --you may miss some of it --so try to use your mouse/curser lightly. And be sure to start at the top of the page--the beginning--scroll to the top of the page when you 1st get on this 'book.'-------->

Raw and Natural Nutrition for Dogs: The Definitive Guide to Homemade Meals - Lew Olson - Google Books

Might as well 'Go whole hog' here--This is the best site for good info on feeding dogs ---Right Nutrition. The person who has this site writes many articles for The Whole Dog Journal--A journal I am subscribed to too. -----> DogAware.com Articles: Homemade Cooked Diets for Dogs Actually here is an article she just put in The Whole Dog Journal and it is the reason I renewed my subscription: A Home-Prepared Dog Food Diet Recipe Critique - Whole Dog Journal Article

[threenorns]

LOL - i love feeding my dog raw meat and bone just because of the way it warps my vet's brain: when she sees him, ***every single time***, she raves about his body condition: black fur so glossy it looks like i've put vaseline in it (glows blue in the sun); bright shiny eyes; good teeth without a lot of buildup; odorless breath; firm muscle tone; perfect weight.

after i remind her he's on a raw meat diet: oh, he's got nutritional imbalance, he's got worms, he's got this, he's got that.

i finally sent in a stool sample and they tested not a sample of of but the entire stool and found not one single parasite.

vets. gotta love 'em.

[Lunareclipse]

Originally Posted by threenorns

LOL - i love feeding my dog raw meat and bone just because of the way it warps my vet's brain: when she sees him, ***every single time***, she raves about his body condition: black fur so glossy it looks like i've put vaseline in it (glows blue in the sun); bright shiny eyes; good teeth without a lot of buildup; odorless breath; firm muscle tone; perfect weight.

after i remind her he's on a raw meat diet: oh, he's got nutritional imbalance, he's got worms, he's got this, he's got that.

i finally sent in a stool sample and they tested not a sample of of but the entire stool and found not one single parasite.

vets. gotta love 'em.

My vet flipped out because I treat my dogs with diatomaceous earth rather than use flea chemicals on them. She said that I shouldn't do that because she doesn't know about that method and it could be dangerous and then tells me that I need to buy Frontline from her instead. Some vets need to learn about holistic practices too because not all people like to put chemicals on their pets.

[threenorns]

yeah - because, like, they havn't been using DE on farm animals for, like, a million years. can buy a freakin 40lb bag of the stuff at the co-op for the cost of a single box of frontline.

[Lunareclipse]

Originally Posted by threenorns

yeah - because, like, they havn't been using DE on farm animals for, like, a million years. can buy a freakin 40lb bag of the stuff at the co-op for the cost of a single box of frontline.

Seriously, you can.

[chiclet]

How do you use it?

[threenorns]

add a tsp of it to the food once a day.

diatomaceous earth is made up of teeny little fossilized critters called "diatoms". they have razor sharp edges that play merry havoc with worms and intestinal parasites but are too small to damage the stomach and intestinal lining.

zero chemicals
zero potential for allergy
zero side effects if used properly.

do NOT inhale the stuff.

make sure the stuff you buy is rated for farm animal use - there's another kind that's been heat-treated - that stuff is used for pool filters and is not safe to ingest.

[Lunareclipse]

Originally Posted by threenorns

add a tsp of it to the food once a day.

diatomaceous earth is made up of teeny little fossilized critters called "diatoms". they have razor sharp edges that play merry havoc with worms and intestinal parasites but are too small to damage the stomach and intestinal lining.

zero chemicals
zero potential for allergy
zero side effects if used properly.

do NOT inhale the stuff.

make sure the stuff you buy is rated for farm animal use - there's another kind that's been heat-treated - that stuff is used for pool filters and is not safe to ingest.

I use food grade diatomaceous earth. You can put it on their food. I also dust the floor of my house with it and rub it on my doggies. It takes care of fleas very well if I remember to use it every two weeks. Do not use the kind for pools. Make sure it is food grade. If we hit a week or so where it isn't going to rain, I use it in the yard too.

[threenorns]

i had no luck using it for flea control - we walked around looking like ghosts the whole summer but still the fleas were raging out of control.

then the house burned down so that took care of the problem.

[Lunareclipse]

Originally Posted by threenorns

i had no luck using it for flea control - we walked around looking like ghosts the whole summer but still the fleas were raging out of control.

then the house burned down so that took care of the problem.

I should say that would take care of a flea problem. DE really works for us but we go and get the pure DE and not the type that you can buy at the feed store that is diluted by other things. There is also saltwater DE and freshwater DE. We use the freshwater.

[Gtmac]

Thanks Corkymax, this is exactly what I was looking for. Just downloaded Raw and Natural nutrition on my iPad. It's 12:30 am, and now it looks like I'll be up even later .
Tina

[CorkyMax]

I have stated that I feed both raw and home cooked but darn I just recently saw this and now I don't know if I can continue to feed cooked--the protein/meat anyway! And just think of the high long heat they use to cook (500 degrees!) commercial dog food. Just can't win!! Feel I should let you know too!:This was part of the answer given by a vet to someone asking about her cat but it applies to a dog as well! The protein is not a problem. Cats (and dogs) are meant to eat high protein. The problem with protein happens when the protein is difficult to digest and thus puts unecessary stress on the kidneys. The reason why cats (and dogs) get renal failure today is because they are eating cooked protein, thus putting stress on the kidneys. When a dog or cat has renal failure, the common veterinary approach is to put the cat or dog on a low protein diet. This in turn stops the kidney problem but ultimately kills the dog or cat. Why? Because dogs and cats are carnivores. They need protein. Without the protein, the carnivore will die. This is why, when a dog or cat has renal failure, the vet will say the pet has 6 months to live. The pet then doesn't die of renal failure, but ultimately from a lack of protein.

Believe it or not, but when a dog or cat has renal failure, some holistic vets will not reduce the protein intake, but will usually increase the protein intake. But the holistic vet will provide raw meat so the protein is in its natural state, thus making the protein easier to digest, putting less stress on the kidneys and ensuring the dog or cat will not die from a lack of protein. At the same time, the holistic vet will use things digestive enzymes, ensure the pet is getting enough calcium and will use or do something similar to, if not the same, as Rena GO and Pet GO.