Hi,

I have heard several variations on how goldens came to be. Some track back to Ireland, some to Nova Scotia or Newfoundland. Anyone have some info? Thanks.

Can't help with that history question. Would also be interested having had several myself.

[Yogi]

hopefully these links will help.
They did originate in Scotland but were primarily bred in Britain.
History of the Golden Retriever
Golden Retriever - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Golden Retriever Dog Breed Origin and History : Large Dog Breeds

Thanks. Thats helpful.

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by Yogi

hopefully these links will help.
They did originate in Scotland but were primarily bred in Britain.
History of the Golden Retriever
Golden Retriever - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Golden Retriever Dog Breed Origin and History : Large Dog Breeds

Pretty bunch of resources, might have interest reading about Goldie history on weekend.

The golden was developed in Britain in the 1800's. The first Golden's were a mix of the now extinct Tweed Water spaniel and the Newfoundland and the Irish setter. Lord Tweedmouth takes all the credit for developing the now Golden Retriever.

Actually the first litter of Golden Retrievers bred by Lord Tweedmouth (the credited creator of the breed) was a cross between the now extinct Tweed Water Spaniel and a Yellow-Coated Retriever. No Newf or setter was in the original mixture.

Golden Retrievers were "developed" in Britain during the 1800's. Believed to be included in the formation of the Golden Retriever breed are the now extinct Tweed Water Spaniel, the Newfoundland, the Irish Setter and a variety of water spaniels. Lord Tweedmouth takes credit for the development of the Golden Retriever. On his estate, near Inverness, Scotland, Lord Tweedmouth wished to develop a dog which was loyal and kind, yet spirited and energetic, with a love for the water and an ability to retrieve. His early vision of a Golden Retriever was for a dog that would have great enthusiasm for retrieving waterfowl. Early golden retrievers ranged from medium gold to dark gold to a "copper" gold. As the golden retriever developed and became more popular in the show ring, the lighter colours, seen in today's Golden Retrievers, emerged. Today Golden Retrievers range from cream to dark gold with the lighter colours seemingly more preferred by many than the darker colours of the original Golden Retrievers. I just hope this helps.

The Golden Retriever was originally developed in Scotland at "Guisachan" near Glen Affric, the highland estate of Sir Dudley Marjoribanks

wow, i never knew all that

[LoneWolf]

I wonder what happened to the Tweed Water spaniel? How often do breeds become extinct?

Thank you for the information

[mrandrei]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I wonder what happened to the Tweed Water spaniel? How often do breeds become extinct?

Tweed Water Spaniel has been extinct since the 1800s. I really have no idea why.

[kms1167]

very interesting!! i always thought Harley seemed very regal and distinguished

[Lara's mom]

Does anybody know why so many of this breed have hip dysplasia? A guy in my building bought a beautiful golden retriever pup from what was supposed to be a reputable breeder. She's only seven months old and has already been diagnosed. It isn't all that bad now but, who knows what the future will hold. I told him that he should inform the breeder immediately because the mother should be spayed. Is that correct?

[kms1167]

Originally Posted by Lara's mom

Does anybody know why so many of this breed have hip dysplasia? A guy in my building bought a beautiful golden retriever pup from what was supposed to be a reputable breeder. She's only seven months old and has already been diagnosed. It isn't all that bad now but, who knows what the future will hold. I told him that he should inform the breeder immediately because the mother should be spayed. Is that correct?

i think it has a lot to do with improper breeding practices as golden's became more and more popular. but many large dogs can be prone to hip dysplasia especially if they grow too big too quick.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by michaelmast

The golden was developed in Britain in the 1800's. The first Golden's were a mix of the now extinct Tweed Water spaniel and the Newfoundland and the Irish setter. Lord Tweedmouth takes all the credit for developing the now Golden Retriever.

Post is pretty old. Check date. Last post was from July of 09 I believe.

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by Todd

Post is pretty old. Check date. Last post was from July of 09 I believe.

Think this (non) member has done this at least twice---He/she just copied what a past member had already posted (back when) in an easy/quick way to prob. do some 'forbidden' soliciting without any effort on his part! As you will notice--under his username--Has been banned! (If he did any soliciting in his posts--think the 'ads' were erased from his posts when he was banned. FYI: Any member can report a post for spam (and other reasons)--Just click on the little red triangle at far bottom left of the post you want to report!

[Todd]

Originally Posted by Corky/Max

Think this (non) member has done this at least twice---He/she just copied what a past member had already posted (back when) in an easy/quick way to prob. do some 'forbidden' soliciting without any effort on his part! As you will notice--under his username--Has been banned! (If he did any soliciting in his posts--think the 'ads' were erased from his posts when he was banned. FYI: Any member can report a post for spam (and other reasons)--Just click on the little red triangle at far bottom left of the post you want to report!

Oh, OK. Thanks for the info.

[Yogi]

Originally Posted by Corky/Max

Think this (non) member has done this at least twice---He/she just copied what a past member had already posted (back when) in an easy/quick way to prob. do some 'forbidden' soliciting without any effort on his part! As you will notice--under his username--Has been banned! (If he did any soliciting in his posts--think the 'ads' were erased from his posts when he was banned. FYI: Any member can report a post for spam (and other reasons)--Just click on the little red triangle at far bottom left of the post you want to report!

and the cookie goes to Corky/Max for the exact correct answer.
Sorry, don't come here to try and sell you Cuban Cigars and only copy other peoples post assuming you can solicit your garbage.