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new to forum, have posted in the hello section too

Thought I would post my own question tho it does seem to be more common than I realised.

We have a 3 n half yr old JRT who is female, and has been neutered. She is completely house trained and no problem indoors at all. We have had her from 9 weeks old.

We also have a 7 month old Springer Spaniel. SS is a male. We have had him since he was 8 weeks old.

The set up we have is that we have a dog gate across the kitchen leading to rest of house, to restrict both dogs to kitchen, utility and garden. During the day unless I am out they both have access to kitchen as well as utility and garden, so have lots of people contact. We occasionally invite them to the rest of the house but the SS gets very excited and being very young then urinates so to save out floors we are trying to sort this out before they have access more frequently.

They both get walked regularly.

When we first got the SS we had separate beds for them, in the utility and that was disaster, they would just share a bed. So we got rid of both small beds and bought one big one.

Now our problem is that the SS will urinate in the bed. No matter how many times I was the bedding, change the bedding or just do away with the bedding, he will still do it.

They have a dog flap in the utility that leads out the garden so holding it isnt a problem because they both use the flap and the SS DOES urinate in the garden. It isnt that he is leaking, or doing it in his sleep because he goes into the bed squats and does it.

I understand puppies go through all sorts of phases, and obviously will grow out of many of them, ie chewing, the urinating when excited etc etc but why on earth does he keep doing it in the bed? should I sleep them separate? ie the JTR in the kitchen and the SS in the utility? but then I think they might possibly miss each other?

Is he doing it because he is sharing a bed? but then we tried separate beds and they just shared one anyway

am very confused as to what to do, and other than washing EVRY day, which is just not practical I dont know what to do

please help

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Well, first off, I suggest you get an extra bed for when he does pee on the big one, so your Jack can stay dry, without sleeping on the floors. I have a familiar set up, although Enzo is allowed in all the house unless small strangers (Children) come in, then he's confined to the kitchen until he calms down a bit, then he's released to the living room. My previous dog would wee all over you when she got excited. She also had a thing with weeing on the couch, the dog beds and the carpets. Next time you have to wash the bed, do so, but before laying it back onto the floor spray it with vinegar. It adds a smell that people don't notice, but dogs do. It should deter the SS from peeing.

Also, When he goes to the bed and starts to sniff around, take him out for a wee. Sometimes you just miss the signs, and the pup will wee on the bed, but soon he'll get the idea and instead of going the the bed he'll nip outside for a wee.

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It is highly unusual for a dog to mess where he/she sleeps or eats. Frankly, I'm not sure what to suggest. Getting an extra bed is a good idea so they have a place to sleep while you wash the other bed.

Be sure to use a cleanser that does not contain ammonia. Ammonia smells like urine to dogs and it just encourages them to go wherever that smell is.
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Thank you for the replies. The bed they sleep in at the moment is a large plastic one, which I put in blankets etc, I have removed the blankets for now, and they still have the plastic shell, so not directly on floor. SS doesn't wee in the bed if the blankets are not there, it very odd

I will try the vinegar idea, I always have plenty in as I use it as a nit deterrent for my little ones. didnt realise that would also work with dogs

Luckily the utility room is warm enough for them without the blankets.

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Hey there!

SS's are known for their random urination habits. One suggestion I have would definitely look into websites/books dedicated to SS's, otherwise he is never going to be allowed in the entire house which I am sure you don't want!

As for the peeing on the bed, it sounds like he is marking his territory. He is 7 months old, and probably is just starting to realize all those funny things they do around that age. Have you had him neutered yet? That might help clear up the problem. If it becomes to be too much of a problem, I would suggest getting a crate for the SS to sleep in during the night. That way the space would be his, and maybe he wouldn't feel the need to mark it.

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Hi all

new to forum, have posted in the hello section too

Thought I would post my own question tho it does seem to be more common than I realised.

We have a 3 n half yr old JRT who is female, and has been neutered. She is completely house trained and no problem indoors at all. We have had her from 9 weeks old.

We also have a 7 month old Springer Spaniel. SS is a male. We have had him since he was 8 weeks old.

The set up we have is that we have a dog gate across the kitchen leading to rest of house, to restrict both dogs to kitchen, utility and garden. During the day unless I am out they both have access to kitchen as well as utility and garden, so have lots of people contact. We occasionally invite them to the rest of the house but the SS gets very excited and being very young then urinates so to save out floors we are trying to sort this out before they have access more frequently.

They both get walked regularly.

When we first got the SS we had separate beds for them, in the utility and that was disaster, they would just share a bed. So we got rid of both small beds and bought one big one.

Now our problem is that the SS will urinate in the bed. No matter how many times I was the bedding, change the bedding or just do away with the bedding, he will still do it.

They have a dog flap in the utility that leads out the garden so holding it isnt a problem because they both use the flap and the SS DOES urinate in the garden. It isnt that he is leaking, or doing it in his sleep because he goes into the bed squats and does it.

I understand puppies go through all sorts of phases, and obviously will grow out of many of them, ie chewing, the urinating when excited etc etc but why on earth does he keep doing it in the bed? should I sleep them separate? ie the JTR in the kitchen and the SS in the utility? but then I think they might possibly miss each other?

Is he doing it because he is sharing a bed? but then we tried separate beds and they just shared one anyway

am very confused as to what to do, and other than washing EVRY day, which is just not practical I dont know what to do

please help

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my 3 year old female lab pit mix who has also been fixed does this occasionally as well. we had her checked for a urinary tract infection but the vet said everything looked fine. we have come to the conclusion that she urinated in her sleep sometimes because of drinking too much water b4 bed. dogs bladders are only so strong. also, fixed female dogs have an enhanced risk of urinary inconsonance. try limiting water intake b4 bed and make sure to let her out to pee right b4 bed also. also, does your dog intentionally pee on the bed or while sleeping. if it's intentional than your looking at a territorial problem.
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