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Hi i have a 4 month old king charles spaniel. We have tried to minimise her anxiety when she is left by leaving her for short periods of time. She is crated in a large crate with plenty of toys. We have a problem with her actually pooping in her bed and blankets ( despite having a litter tray in the crate ). She will go outside and we praise her and treat her everytime she does. We are getting to our wits end with this as we have been told that it is very unusual for a dog to actually defecate in its actual bed . Any suggestions would be really helpful. She is fit and healthy and it is not because she has the runs.
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She's a very young puppy. How long are you leaving her in the crate?
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Sounds like her crate may be too large. The crate should only be large enough for her to stand up but not move around much at all. If the crate is larger than this, she will poop in it because there is room to poop away from her sleeping area. Dogs generally will not poop or pee in their slepping area, so if the crate was smaller she wouldn't be able to poop away from where she's laying. I suggest getting a smaller crate. Sounds like the issue to me. Remember, just big enough to stand up by not move around more than a fott or so.
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Crates never worked for me. I'm selling the rotten thing at our next garage sale...
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Crates never worked for me. I'm selling the rotten thing at our next garage sale...
Is this the cursed crate you're referring to???
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hi guys , thanks for the responses - she is actually pooing in her covers and blankets , not in another part of the crate . She then sits/rolls in it and gets covered. We are wondering if ti is seperation anxiety although she doesnt do it every time she is left. She is happy in there , and actually puts herself in if she is tired etc. We are going to increase her exercise and see if she settles more if she is more tired.
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hi guys , thanks for the responses - she is actually pooing in her covers and blankets , not in another part of the crate . She then sits/rolls in it and gets covered. We are wondering if ti is separation anxiety although she doesn't do it every time she is left. She is happy in there , and actually puts herself in if she is tired etc. We are going to increase her exercise and see if she settles more if she is more tired.
Well, if she's just laying in it then it seems we have a different issue. You say her stool is firm correct? If it's loose she may be unable to hold it because of anxiety or she could have a physical problem such as an intestinal parasite.

Your dog is young and may just not be able to hold it that long. make sure to let her out right before bed time and promopt her to relieve herself.

Does she dislike the crate? Some dogs become so anxious in crates that the crate itself becomes the problem. She may be so uncomfortable and anxious in the crate that she just goes all over herself. If this could be the case, try leaving her in the crate, but moving it into your room for a while. Just knowing you're right there may make her feel a whole lot calmer. After a few weeks, try moving the crate a few more feet away from your bed until it is in the location it's in now. Keping it upstairs may be a better option, in another room eventually unless you have a one story home. Here are some other ways to get a dog used to and comfortable in their crate. I found this info online;

Choose the correct size crate. Your dog should have enough room to comfortably stand, sit, lie down and turn around. If you have a puppy, you'll probably want a crate that will be big enough to fit your dog when he is full grown. If you can't decide how big a crate you'll need, consult a breed recommendation chart (see Resources). Remember that if you are crate training your dog, get a crate with a divider so you can adjust the space your puppy has access to has he grows.

Put the crate in the middle of a room where your dog is. Put a yummy treat just inside the crate door and leave the door open.

Watch your dog. Praise him when he goes to sniff the crate. Eventually your dog will poke his head in to eat the treat. Use a toy if your dog doesn't seem interested in the treats.

Place another treat in the crate, but father back.

Repeat these steps a for a few minutes a few times a day until your dog will go all the way into the crate.

Put your dog's food dish in the crate so he begins associating his food with his crate.
Getting comfortable with the crate

Ask your dog to go into the crate. He might need to be helped into the crate until he understands what you are asking for. Give him a treat when he's in the crate.

Hold your hand in front of the crate to keep him from leaving it. Remove your hand after 10 seconds or so. Repeat this until your dog will stay calmly in the crate for about 30 seconds.

Repeat Step 1. Then close the door of the crate. Repeat this step many times, gradually increasing the amount of time the dog is in the crate.

Put your dog in the crate and leave the room. Gradually increase the amount of time he is in the crate.

Start putting your dog into the crate while you go on errands or for short periods of time. Once he is comfortable with this, you can try keeping him in the crate at night or while you are away at work.

Play with your dog or take him on a long walk before you put him in the crate. If he has too much energy, he will be more likely to cry in the crate.

Give your dog a toy or treat when you put him in his crate. You might try a Kong filled with a treat. This will reward your dog for going into the crate and also distract him during the first few minutes he is crated, which is often the most difficult time.
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Default dog pooping in crate

Thanks Todd - you have given me some really useful tips. I think you may be right that the crate is too big and will try and divide it up for her. I am def going to try some of the things you have suggested . she is happy enough to go in and sleep when i am there so i will work on the food things and try and get her more comfortable. This forum is great just to ask advice - makes such a difference.
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Exclamation About Dividing the Crate---Don't Do This!!!

This is the 2nd time I've brought this post up when someone is going to make a crate smaller! Have no idea what happened with her dog---This was her last post so am not thinking it was a happy ending!

My dog needs surgery!!!!

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I followed everyones advise and made my crate smaller. I used metal mesh and cut the crate inhalf - just allowing enough room for my "Bella" to move and lye down. Well...Bella chewed up some of the medal and it's now lodge in the lining in her stomach wall as well as her small intestines! She stopped eating on Saturday and was very quiet. My husband took her to our vet today and she has only a 30-40% change of this "passing" through her. She hasn't kept food/water down and is very dehydrated. We brought her home tonight and she's on a special food to help her keep it down. If this doesn't work she'll need surgery. She is only 11 months old. The cost of this can be anywhere from $1500-2400.00. We don't have that cash!! Does anyone know of any place I can search for donations? I went on Care Credit and was approved for some of it. I don't want to put her down - which will be the end results if I don't come up with the rest of the money. I am praying that she can pass this on her own. I am so desperate for some feedback! She is like my "baby" and I couldn't bare think of her gone at 11 months old!
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