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Hi, My name is Mia. I recently adopted a 3 year old chihuahua from an animal shelter. He was a stray but it's very obvious he had an owner before becomming a stray. He is housebroken and very well behaved. About a week after I adopted him, he had a seizure. I took him to the vet and he checked out fine but they put him on medication just in case. As soon as I left the vet I took him to play in the park where a German Shepard attacked him (while it's owner watched and then tried to walk away). His wounds were superficial and nothing was broken or serious but when he came home from the vet he was NEVER the same. He won't answer when he's called, he won't eat out of his bowl, i have to feed him out of my hand, he won't walk up or down any stairs, and he doesn't follow me anymore. What does this mean? Will he ever grow out of it? What should i do to help him love and trust again?
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Well done for taking on a rescue dog. I suppose from his point of view the horrible things that have happened - going to the vet and all the smells and experiences there and the attack by the other dog - happened because of you.

If he is on anticonvulsant meds that will make him dopey and a bit "out of it" for a while until his body adjusts.

I would say to forget about the way he was when you first adopted him and look on him as he is now, traumatised and subdued by his medication. To start with would you consider changing his name, giving him a totally fresh start.

To begin with work on teaching him his name - sit by him, speak his name - his old name or a new one - and every time he looks at you you give him a treat. It needn't be extra food, it can be part of his meal.

You are obviously bonded with him so you can start withdrawing the hand feeding except as training. If he is healthy he will not starve himself if he can walk to the bowl and eat.

I would say to take it very slow and easy with him. Be very patient and don't ask for anything from him at the moment, just let him recover and build his confidence again.
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Well done for taking on a rescue dog. I suppose from his point of view the horrible things that have happened - going to the vet and all the smells and experiences there and the attack by the other dog - happened because of you.

If he is on anticonvulsant meds that will make him dopey and a bit "out of it" for a while until his body adjusts.

I would say to forget about the way he was when you first adopted him and look on him as he is now, traumatised and subdued by his medication. To start with would you consider changing his name, giving him a totally fresh start.

To begin with work on teaching him his name - sit by him, speak his name - his old name or a new one - and every time he looks at you you give him a treat. It needn't be extra food, it can be part of his meal.

You are obviously bonded with him so you can start withdrawing the hand feeding except as training. If he is healthy he will not starve himself if he can walk to the bowl and eat.

I would say to take it very slow and easy with him. Be very patient and don't ask for anything from him at the moment, just let him recover and build his confidence again.
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Thank you. I love my dog as if he's my child and honestly, that's what he is to me. He's my baby. I just hope he will learn to trust again. All I can do is give him my love and patience right? I will definitely try the new name part with him. Thank you for your advice.
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I am sure that if you carry on being gentle and accepting he will "come back". It wasn't the same situation but we rescued a retriever and we had for about a fortnight before we took her to the vet to be spayed. We walked in with this beautiful, bright girl who was friends with everyone and came home with an old lady. I knew she would be dopey after the op but I was completely unprepared for the "deadness" in her eyes. She had had two weeks of fun and games and suddenly these new people took her to a strange place full of horrible smells and it hurt. It took her a good week to be anything like she was before the op and I am sure she was traumatised by what had happened. My other dogs were over it in 24/48 hours but they hadn't suffered the same trauma as she did - one we had had for about 4 years, the other we had had from a pup.

I reckon your dog's got the best owner he could have and he will be fine.
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Great responses. As suggested, just like someone who has gone through a traumatic experience and such you need to re teach many basic things they knew before. Like rehabilitation. You need to be extremely patient with the dog. Treat the dog with kindness and be very gentle. Take things slow and never too much at once. Almost like re socializing the dog to the world inn an even more loving and caring way because of the mental trauma caused. What is the exact med he is on and how much longer? This could very well be adding to the problem because of the potential side effects...
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Thank you both for the great advice and reinforcement. and he is taking 3different meds. Guaifenisin, Metacam Oral, and Augmentin. He will start his seizure medication when he is off of antibiotic.
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Thank you both for the great advice and reinforcement. and he is taking 3different meds. Guaifenisin, Metacam Oral, and Augmentin. He will start his seizure medication when he is off of antibiotic.
did some research on the meds...

Guaifenisin: I'm assuming this is being given as somewhat of a sedative/muscle relaxant?

Metacam Oral: Assuming your using this as a pain reliever. Like all meds, there can be side effects and potential harm. Is your dog in physical pain? How long ago was this incident? You may consider tapering the dog of this med and see what happens. If he is showing signs of pain get increase the dose a bit back toward normal. I'd start slowly tapering off now.

Augmentin: Looks like this is an antibiotic. Continue use as your vet directed to ward off possible infection.

So basically, I would try and taper off the Metacam Oral now, use the antibiotic as directed, and as far as the Guaifenisin goes I would keep using while the rehabilitation process is on going and eventually taper off very, very slowly as time goes on. Be patient though. Talk with your vet about this. Make sure your dog has plenty of fluids with the med to ward off any possible kidney stones. I may try to warn your dog off of this to avoid any side effects that could even interfere with the rehabilitation process though and try some natural remedies which relax dogs and are anti anxiety remedies. Try the following... (from online)

Rescue Remedy w/Bach Flowers

Chamomile

This herb reduces anxiety in dogs that are stressed out. It calms the nerve as well as induces sleep. You can give chamomile tea to your dog before a long drive or soak a treat in the tea.

Oat

Oat is an excellent nerve-calming herb and is nutritious as well. Cooked oatmeal can be added to your dog's food.

Astragalus

This Chinese herb has immune-strengthening qualities and can be used continually (in moderation) to boost the body's immune system under stress.

St-John's Wort

This herb is excellent for separation anxiety and tension and is also effective for depressed dogs, and is available in capsules or as a tincture. It combines well with valerian.

Valerian

Valerian reduces tension, anxiety, overexcitability in dogs. This herb is available in capsules or as a tincture.

Skullcap

Skullcap is effective for nervous tension. It also helps epileptic dogs.
** Sedative herbs (e.g. valerian, skullcap) and anti-depressants such as St-John's wort should not be used continually for a long period of time.

Homeopathic Remedies for Dog Anxiety

Homeopathic remedies are also effective in calming nervous dogs with anxiety problems. For homeopathic remedies, the effect is almost instantaneous; therefore, if your dog suffers from anxiety caused by noise (such as thunder), or if she becomes nervous in a car, keep one or more of the following remedies handy so that you can administer the remedy to your dog before any upcoming stressful event.
Some common remedies include:

Borax

Dogs needing this remedy are easily startled by sudden noises, such as gunshots. They are also fearful of downward motion. For example, they may panic when you place them on the floor after holding them; or they may have a strong resistance in going down stairs.

Chamomilla

This remedy (from chamomile) can be given in low potency to calm a dog suffering from anxiety. Usually, the dog is irritable and restless, and has to be carried all the time - she will whine and become restless the moment she is put down.

Passiflora incarnata

This remedy (from passionflower) has calming properties but not a sedative. It is effective in calming frightened animals and is good for travel and other stressful situations.

Phosphorus

Dogs needing this remedy can be startled easily. They may generally be sweet and gentle, but in threatening or stressful situations (such as at the vet's), they may become explosive. They fear thunder and lightning and other loud noises.

Rhododendron

Dogs that require this remedy are sensitive to stormy weather and are afraid of thunderstorms. The symptoms usually worsen before a storm.
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Nutritional Supplements for Dog Anxiety

Some natural nutritional supplements can be effective remedies for hyperactive dogs as well. In particular:

L-theanine: L-theanine is a free (non-protein) amino acid found almost exclusively in tea plants and is the predominant amino acid in green tea leaves. L-theanine has been found to directly stimulate the production of alpha brain waves, creating a state of deep relaxation. It is being used effectively as a calming supplement in people.

Thiamine: Thiamine, or thiamin, is a water-soluble vitamin of the B complex (vitamin B1). It has been shown to affect the central nervous system, in particular, it helps to calm and soothe anxious animals. A deficiency of thiamin has been found to cause irritability in animals. Because thiamine is not stored in the body, increased activity, stress, illness, or increase metabolism depletes its levels in the body.

Decapeptide: Decapeptide is isolated from the milk protein casein and is known for its calming effects.

Flower Essences for Dog Anxiety

Flower essences are also effective in soothing a dog with anxiety.
Bach's Rescue Remedy is one essence that is handy to have for emergency situations.

If your dog is generally anxious and nervous about thunderstorms, going to the vet, taking a long trip, etc., there are various flower essence blends that can help address these problems as well. Visit our page on flower essence blends for dogs for more information.

Natural Products for Dog Anxiety

Genesis Canine Anxiety & Stress Formula for Dogs
This is an herbal supplement designed for dogs exhibiting nervousness, hyperactivity, anxiety or responding to environmentally induced stress. The natural ingredients in this herbal formula balance the calming effects between the central nervous system and the heart, reducing anxiety without affecting a pet's emotional balance and personality. It contains nerve-calming herbs such as chamomile and passionflower.

Vetri-Science Composure Liquid Supplement for Dogs and Cats

This supplement contains L-theanine, thiamine, decapeptide, and lecithin (which is also calming to the nervous system). Many dog parents have successfully used this composure liquid to calm their dogs with anxiety.

Only Natural Pet Relaxi-Herb Herbal Formula 2 oz.

This is another effective herbal formula designed for nervousness and anxiety problems. This formula contains herbs such as oat, passionflower, valerian, and skullcap. These herbs help quiet nerves, relax the body, and heal tissues.

Dr. Harvey's Relax for Dogs

This herbal supplement is all natural and is effective in alleviating symptoms of dog anxiety without any harmful side effects. It contains nerve-calming herbal extracts, such as chamomile, passionflower, valerian, skullcap. It also contains herbs with nutritious and healing properties, such as garlic, flaxseed, alfalfa, kelp, red clover, rose hips, etc.

HomeoPet Anxiety TFLN for Dogs and Cats

This is a homeopathic formula contains borax, chamomilla, phosphorus, and rhododendron - all effective in calming a nervous dog.

LoveMyPet Stress Relief for Dogs and Cats

This formula uses organic herbs as well as homeopathic ingredients to calm pets that upset easily in unfamiliar or startling situations such as travel, thunder, fireworks, or separation. It contains skullcap, passion flower, and oatstraw.

Bach Flower Essences Rescue Remedy 10ml

Dr. Bach's Rescue Remedy is effective in calming an overly excited or frightened dog. Put a few drops of the remedy in your dog's drinking water, or to be more effective, rub a few drops on his mouth and gums. In many cases, this will achieve almost immediate result.

*These will help with the trauma/anxiety during the rehabilitation process.

You may also choose to look into message therapy, acupuncture, acupressure, or touch therapy.

If these don't work out so well ask you vet about prozac, an antidepressent/antianxiety med.
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