Does anybody compete in UKC conformation shows? Do you do both UKC & AKC? I am looking for any information. I do AKC shows and am curious as to how they differ. I know the groups are different and UKC allows many more breeds but as far as the actual shows and the quality of the dogs, how to they compaire?

A close friend of mine is an all breed UKC judge. She also breeds and shows longhaired Dachshunds in both AKC and UKC shows. I don't know all the particulars regarding how UKC differs from AKC, but I'll try to contact her and find out. I can't promise when I'll be able to get ahold of her, though. She's a very busy woman.

I do know that UKC has more specialty shows, as opposed to the usual all breed AKC shows. But I'd say the quality of the dogs shown is quite high. There are many people who compete in both, and have dual titles on their dogs. My friend had the #1 UKC show dog, all breeds, in 2004. And, unlike AKC, there's a two day competition, under multiple judges, to determine who's the "Top Dog."

i made a research on this
here's the link for UKC
United Kennel Club: What Kinds Of UKC Dog Shows Are There?
and for akc
Dog Shows | The AKC and the AKC Dog Show | Just For The Dogs - The Dog Lovers Website

vetgroomer... I would love the info if it is not too much trouble. I am very interested in how the quality compairs with AKC shows where for the most part the quality is VERY VERY high! Also is it more owner-handlers or pros or mixed. thanks!

UKC does not allow professional handlers. At all. They encourage breeder/handlers or owner/handlers, but you can't hire a professional. And they're pretty strict about it.

UKC also does not allow for overly groomed dogs. Dogs should be shown in "natural" coat, except those breeds that have a set pattern, such as poodles and terriers. They also don't allow grooming in the ring. You aren't even allowed to carry a comb into the ring.

UKC does not allow the use of bait in the ring. Anyone caught throwing or dropping bait can be excused.

If your dog soils the ring, you get to clean it up. They don't call for clean up, they hand you paper towels and a bottle of cleaner.

UKC frowns on stacking. Dogs should stand naturally, move naturally. In general the UKC requires you to show a natural dog. You can train your dog to walk into a stack, but you aren't supposed to place the feet in any other way; dropping, or picking up a foot and putting it in place are not allowed.

UKC judges are more likely to withhold ribbons for lack of quality. So the quality of the dogs exhibited tends to be quite high.

The UKC point system is totally different. Dogs are required to accumulate 100 points, under at least three different judges, to become a champion. But the number of points awarded is totally different.

UKC also has more titles; Grand Champion, National Grand Champion, for example.

And then there's the Top Ten Invitational. The top ten dogs in each breed may be invited to compete. By process of elimination, it's pared down to ten dogs, who compete for the #1 spot.

My dog, Oli's litter brother won the Invitational in 2004! Thor is a magnificent longhaired Dachshund. Absolutely stunning. Check out his pic.

Thor

That's the kind of quality you can expect at a UKC show.

From the ears back, Oli looks just like him. He just doesn't have that nice head.

Originally Posted by vetgroomer

My dog, Oli's litter brother won the Invitational in 2004! Thor is a magnificent longhaired Dachshund. Absolutely stunning.

That is deffinatly one good looking dog! Thats quite an accomplishment to win that title at his age as well.

Sounds much better then AKC in many ways!! Sign me up Thats how dog shows should be, judging the dog not the handler or the groomer!!! Thank you for all the info!

Originally Posted by orangedog

Sounds much better then AKC in many ways!! Sign me up Thats how dog shows should be, judging the dog not the handler or the groomer!!! Thank you for all the info!

Of course you'll have to register your dog with UKC first. This shouldn't be a problem if you already have AKC papers, and a pedigree.

already filled out the paperwork... I am doing their HRC tests and figured if we are registered maybe do the conformation shows as well.

[pinsnpugs]

One correction...baiting IS permitted in UKC under most judges.
Each individual judge, however, may allow or not allow it. At the shows there are signs at ring entrance stating if that judge allows bait or not, most do.

However,,,tossing, throwing, dropping bait will get you excused.

"UKC frowns on stacking. Dogs should stand naturally, move naturally. In general the UKC requires you to show a natural dog. You can train your dog to walk into a stack, but you aren't supposed to place the feet in any other way; dropping, or picking up a foot and putting it in place are not allowed."FROM VETGROOMER


as Far as stacking goes I have shown Am Pit bull Terriers in the ring, and stacking was not frowned upon.

Also if you own a Labrador retriever(this I know exclusively) and I think any other gun dog your dog must have achieved an HR title(at the very least) to Be awarded his/her CH title. even if your dog has earned the points, until they achieve the hunting title they will not be awarded their Championship.

[pinsnpugs]

Stacking is not frowned upon in UKC. It is very exceptable.
Some judges, just like AKC will have you free stack upon request, but I have had far more AKC judges ask for a natural stack than I have ever had in UKC.

"Also if you own a Labrador retriever(this I know exclusively) and I think any other gun dog your dog must have achieved an HR title(at the very least) to Be awarded his/her CH title. even if your dog has earned the points, until they achieve the hunting title they will not be awarded their Championship."

I have gundogs and have UKC Championship on one of them with NO HR titles - YET that is.

[pinsnpugs]

Hunting titles and conformation titles are competed for and awarded seperately.
You need not have one to be awarded the other. I know many Lab people who do not hunt, only show in Conformation and have CCH dogs.

[Lunareclipse]

I have an AKC Saint Bernard puppy and I would like to show. But I have no idea where to get started. Any ideas?

[pinsnpugs]

Do the breeders you got him from show as well?

[mightymite]

Originally Posted by arcticretrievers

"UKC frowns on stacking. Dogs should stand naturally, move naturally. In general the UKC requires you to show a natural dog. You can train your dog to walk into a stack, but you aren't supposed to place the feet in any other way; dropping, or picking up a foot and putting it in place are not allowed."FROM VETGROOMER


as Far as stacking goes I have shown Am Pit bull Terriers in the ring, and stacking was not frowned upon.

Also if you own a Labrador retriever(this I know exclusively) and I think any other gun dog your dog must have achieved an HR title(at the very least) to Be awarded his/her CH title. even if your dog has earned the points, until they achieve the hunting title they will not be awarded their Championship.

Have to agree. I have shown in UKC - and all dogs were stacked. Shepherds were even stacked with the one foot under the body as seen in AKC shows.

[pinsnpugs]

Off to a UKC weekend Friday. 5 shows in one weekend. Working on my Champion boys Gr CH title now.
Plan to have a blast no matter the outcome of wins!

[OrangeDog]

I have been doing UKC shows for a long time now and have a few Champions and a couple dogs who are close to getting their Grands!

[pinsnpugs]

We have several UKC Champions and the male I mentioned previously, did, in fact ear his Gr. CH title that weekend!

He also made the top ten for the breed for 2009, so we will be off to the Premier in July to compete in the Premier show in Indiana!