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Old 02-15-2007   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 100lb mixed dog...part ger. shepard, part border collie, part golden retriever...he's big and strong. He's 1 1/2 yrs old. When we go on a walk, he really walks me and it's not enjoyable at all. I've been looking into halters, there's many different kinds. Is one better than others? Are the ones that go over their chests better than the head ones?
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I'm buying kip a body harness soon ( boy i need one, my poor arms)
I don't want the type that fits around his muzzle, they rub sores. I'd say the body harness would be a good choice for large dogs that pull.
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My dog uses a Gentle Leader and I only use it when she walks. She used to pull but now she doesn't. I haven't noticed any sores on her yet. I know that they can cause sores.
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Hi, I also have a rescue a four year old 70 pound Chow-Chow, Bear. He is pulling my arm off too. I'm 65 and weight 150 so he can pull me across into the ocean whenever he wants. I live one mile from the Pacific ocean.

Does anyone know of a no pull or no tug harness that doesn't go over the nose that WORKS. I've spent money on several so called excellent harness all to no avail. The ones that go around the nose he has learned how to take off within ten minutes. He's very intelligent too. I can see in his eyes when he knows it's time for a harness. (Hummm, lets see if I can fool mommy again and how long it takes before I can get tangled up so bad in the harness that she has to remove it!)

HELP!!!! or is it hopeless?

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Hi, I also have a rescue a four year old 70 pound Chow-Chow, Bear. He is pulling my arm off too. I'm 65 and weight 150 so he can pull me across into the ocean whenever he wants. I live one mile from the Pacific ocean.

Does anyone know of a no pull or no tug harness that doesn't go over the nose that WORKS. I've spent money on several so called excellent harness all to no avail. The ones that go around the nose he has learned how to take off within ten minutes. He's very intelligent too. I can see in his eyes when he knows it's time for a harness. (Hummm, lets see if I can fool mommy again and how long it takes before I can get tangled up so bad in the harness that she has to remove it!)

HELP!!!! or is it hopeless?

Thanks,
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Its not hopeless, it may be a matter of spending a bit of time and money on reccomended training aids. What works for one dog may not work for another.

The harness is not always good for a puller, because it applys little pressure or discomfort when pulling on it, you may find it making the pulling worse.

Head collars or haltis can be good, but be watchfull of using correction with them too harshly, they can cause damage to the dogs neck if you pull back to hard or too fast.

chokers if used and fitted correctly can make a massive difference, however some stronger necked dogs can still resist the pressure, and would rather still pull and gasp for air than become controlled for walking, and if this is the case it is when the chokers can cause damage around the throat.

martangle collars work on a similar concept of the choker however have a stopping pont, but if the choker unsuccessfull for you it is likey that the martangle will not work either.

Pinch collars are another consideration, they look nasty, but once again if used as they should be, can be a fantastic training tool, I have not used one of these, however would be prepared to if all else fails. I have seen them being used, and noticed a massive diffrence, instead of pulling tight around the dogs neck they pinch the skin causing discomfort when the dog pulls against it.

There is also the sporn training halter, osCommerce instead of going around the head and nose like the halti or head collar, there is a cord that pulls tight under the dogs front legs instead, we found this to be really good, and is impossible for the dog to slip out of unlike the head collars or halti.

I have tried all of these but the pinch collar, I actually use two at a time, we have a choker, which usually works really well for Kato but at times of over excitement he will start resisting the pressure, so we also put him in his halter, and clip the lead into both of them, it allows us, if he is becoming overly excited to pull on both, apply pressure around his neck with the choker at the same time pressure under his legs too, stops him in his tracks every time and pulls him straight back into line.

dont give up or feel that it is hopeless, its just finding the right aid for you and your dog, or even the right combination of two working together.
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I have heard good things from my clients about the gentle leads. However I don't use that method. I reccommend stopping this at the source. Your dog is SO excited on it's walks that it's not minding you... very common! Stand in your front yard before you leave for your walk. Just stand there with the dog on the leash. Stand there until the dog calms down a little and understands that neither of you are going anywhere until you are ready. Then start by walking a couple of yards then stop again. Stop several times on the walk and just relax. It will help the dog understand that he is tied to YOU and can only go where and when you say. I still have to stop from time to time with my dogs to have them calm down and focus a little bit. It works pretty well. You can't have a big dog pulling you out in front of traffic! If they don't understand the "stopping" which they might not. Have them sit or do tricks when you stop. It will take their mind off the confusion.
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