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Old 10-07-2008   #21 (permalink)
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GSBreeder, Thank you the detailed outline! I will work on this. I have deep respect to Mother Nature and all Her Kingdoms. I overlooked this aspect of my life. Will work on rectifying it.
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Old 10-08-2008   #22 (permalink)
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Iam happy you got away from that sick criminal
what is important is that your ok

maybe your dog needs to learn shotokan karate-do?
i hope you make your dog your new bodyguard
always make he/she understand her duties
maybe its time the spoiling stops and the work begins
 
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Old 10-29-2008   #23 (permalink)
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This is such bull. The professional's are for city people who can't work and think for themselfs and want to blow a lot of money. Hiring a professional is for lazy fools who can,t think and work.
Not true. I would applaud the person who was wise enough to go with the professional and throttle the one who thought he/she was smart enough to do it on his/her own and ends up hurting someone else or the dog. Of course, I'm not saying this applies to all people, but training a dog in personal protection is not for everyone, as it involves the encouragement of aggressive behavior. People get hurt, their dogs get hurt, other dogs get hurt. For the most part, hiring a professional is for people who want to be careful and safe rather than cocky and sorry.

However, I don't especially believe in personal protection dogs. I think people need to stick up for themselves and get a gun or learn self defense rather than to hide behind their friend and companion. So many dogs love their owners unconditionally and really would give it everything to protect them. And sadly, many owners take advantage of that.
Yes, both of my German Shepherds are going through Schultzhund training, but that different from actual personal protection, and outside of competition and the training field, I'd never give the order to attack.
 
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Old 11-01-2008   #24 (permalink)
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my boxers were always super sweet, they will protect you and your family if neccessary if u read the breed description it actually states that.
 
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Well I have no experience in this kind of training but here is some advice:
Make sure your dog has very good basic training.
Spread out training time, no more then 20 min at a time.
Don't use negative words to correct him, that is talking to him so he will consider that to be a reward.
Find something that motivates him if you have to, like a toy. Use food as a last resort.
Your can probably find more stuff if you Google it. Good Luck!
 
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Why would you want to train a dog it is ok to attack some one? If you are really interested in this seek expert advice!
I agree. An trained professional is needed under these circumstances. I think it would be too dangerous to try to handle this on your own.
 
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Old 05-02-2009   #27 (permalink)
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Hey I found for you a good website to train your guard dog
Training a Guard Dog
Best Guard Dog Breed - How to Train Dog to Attack
 
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These breads are very head strong with a mind of their own. They are very smartDogs. They will test your body and mind but once their trained they become the most loyal pets out there. Absolute best way to dog housebreak is finding out how to communicate and train your dog.
 
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You don't have to train your dog to attack. What if it just started attacking everybody? It would be nighty-night for the dog. A dog will most generally protect on instinct. Please don't force it to. The best thing to do is for YOU to go take Karate and self defense classes. I love my dogs too much to ever want to put them between me and danger. So I went and got a 3rd degree black belt in Shorin Ryu.
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YOu guys do realize that no matter whether your dog is on a leash or not or in his own home or not . If this dog bites another human or dog or animal even for selfprotection, both the owner and the dog is 100% responsible and 9 out of 10 times the dog is put down. I have heard many cases like this. Please make sure you check with your vets and your police dept before training your pooch to be agressive.
Did you think about what you are going to do if your pooch attacks one day for no reason?
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I think it's irresponsible and short sighted to attempt to turn a family pet into an attack dog. When that dog does what it has been trained to do and bites someone, the dog will be the one euthanized.
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I am in no way shape or form a dog expert or professional trainer. I am having quite a time with my Border Collie/Greyhound mix right now with kind of this same subject: protectiveness. He guards me and my home and our things with such acute attention I worry that it consumes his every waking moment. I want him to relax and be able to just play ball without feeling the necessity to guard it!

That said, all I can offer to you is that you do not have to train your dog to attack at all. Dogs inherently are pack animals and are genetically hardwired to guard what they feel is rightly theirs. If there were a burglar intruding into your home without anyone there but the dog, I would bet big money your dog would take matters into his own paws. From what I have read about dogs and the pack system there is a hierarchy. You have to establish that you and your husband are pack leaders which the dog must follow. After this is established, through obedience training and not violence, your dog will always look to you for behavioral cues. I am certain that if your dog identifies you and your husband as the gods in his life that give him food, water, shelter and love he will do anything and everything in his power to please you and keep you from harm. Also, when you are gone your dog will inherently understand that he is in charge of the house in your absence.

Anecdote about my dog, Oy: Once a woman who had been in my house before just a few times knocked on the door three times and then when no one answered she cracked the door open on her own and peeked her head inside. Oy was sitting quietly at the top of the stairs because he had heard her knocking. When she peeked inside she said "Hello?" and Oy promptly ran down the stairs, out the front door, and knocked her to the ground! He stood there on top of her and would not let her up until my mother appeared at the door! Instant guard dog, no training required.

The tricky part is actually the last part, trying to teach him to follow your commands against his genetic instinct. This I cannot help you with specifically, and would not attempt to as I'm working on that same problem with my own dog. The only advice I can give you is constant vigilance and constant obedience training. The more your dog becomes aware that you will not accept anything other than perfect obedience to your commands the easier this last part becomes. Dogs are innately protective animals that will instinctively attack when the time is right, they just need humans to give them guidance. I think it is wise to consider the point of view of the dog, I would be cautious not to put him under any undue stress or to explicitly excite that animal urge to seek and destroy because you may end up with a monster on your hands. The last thing you want to do is damage your dog's psyche by not taking the time to understand him in the first place.

I have recently read The Latchkey Dog by Jodi Anderson which has been extremely helpful to me in general obedience training and getting to understand how my dog feels and thinks. You have to look at this from your dog's perspective and then try to figure out how best to communicate human objectives to him.

Good luck, be careful.
 
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This is such bull. When ever I hear hire a professional that usually insults me. I have trained my own dog to attack on command and without a professional. A lot of good reading material and common sense and a good bond with your dog is all you need. Never abuse the dog, start with teaching him or her to be a good dog and work up to teaching him or her how to attack on command. Don't ever believe that hire a professional junk. A good hard working man or women with common sense can learn on their own. The professional's are for city people who can't work and think for themselfs and want to blow a lot of money. Hiring a professional is for lazy fools who can,t think and work.
Reactor, I agree with you 100%! I have trained my own dogs, Dobermans, to serve and protect with great results and never with any problems regarding family or friends. They are lovable and well cared for but will do what I need them to do when I request it done and by God do not try to get into our home when no one, my wife or I are'nt there. We live in Vermont with lots of land and privacy and like it that way but times are changing and because of our dogs I sleep very well at night and do not worry about my bikes or tools or any of the other valuables we have. And, when I am on a run and the wife is not into it that weekend I know she is safe also though she really does not need the dogs...
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I think it's irresponsible and short sighted to attempt to turn a family pet into an attack dog. When that dog does what it has been trained to do and bites someone, the dog will be the one euthanized.
Not if they bite the right person. I knew someone that was "home invaded" and almost the victim of a burgler. The dog, a Rottie, saved their ass and was the ONLY reason the lowlife took off running for their life instead of being able to almost maybe take a life. Without the dog, God knows what would have happened. The police were called and they never did get the guy but did commend the dog for doing a great job!...John
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Be that as it may, chances are that the dog would have protected his family anyway. Dogs are family members - not weapons.
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