[aaron23]

Lunar - you dont need to buy all new sand and all new base rock. It is just another cycle. You can complete the cycle through just weekly water change with no fish, coral, inverts in the system. No need to buy more or new rocks / sand.

I brought the puppy to the vet today as required by the adoption contracts within 72 hours. I've been catching and rewarding the puppy to relieve itself outside and last night I was able to help her keep the cage clean!!!



Between 1-6am i was up every 2 hours to check on it and help it go to the bathroom. The vet said that is ridiculous to meet its demands but to just let it go in the cage and when you correct it it will eventually stop
-should i go with that?

Additionally the vet today brought up the fact that if the pup stopped eating its blood sugar could drop to severe levels and the puppy can go into comma.

Weird thing she barely answered any of my questions told me to go to the behavior center and get them answered there through a program...
After I came home and took the pup outside and then back in for a meal... it has a loss of appetitie.

She ate at 6AM and then went to the vet at 11am. I tried the second feeding at 12pm and she will only eat pieces from my hand and occasionally nipping in the bowl. What should I do or is there anything to be worried about?

Thank you all

Aaron.

[aaron23]

gosh that realyl sucks that the fish died.

My advice is DO NOT buy new sand / rock. Remove all of the dead fish. All you need to do now is stop the cycle by doing weekly water changes. Depending on the size of the system, try to do atleast 1-2 5gallon bucket water changes on the system. It will be fully cycled within 1-2 months. No need to buy new things.

Chloe my puppy did not soil or wee in the cage at all last night!! What an accomplishment. But the thing is she had me up every 2 hours in the wee hours in the morning from 1-6 am.

I went to the vet today as required by the adoption contract (within 72 hours). Before I went there I fed her the first meal at 6AM. Then proceeded to the appointment at 11AM.
The vet said everything is good but if she does not eat put any type of syrup like maple syrup in her mouth because her blood sugar can drop very quickly if she does not eat.

Well arriving him and trying to feed her the second meal at 12pm she had a loss of appetite. She would only eat pieces i put in my hand and would not dig into the bowl herself unusual since yesterday this was not the case.

She has eaten less than half of her 2nd meal. Should I be worried? Do you think the other dogs had spooked her at the vets?

[aaron23]

why do my posts require moderator monitoring?
I posted 2 replies and nothing has posted

[aaron23]

seems as though if you type a long post moderators need to look into it.

A problem now is how come the puppy is being a princess and NOT eating out of the bowl but eating each kibble out of my hand? She wont eat otherwise, I went through 3/4ths of the meal hand feeding her....

Awaiting my prior 2 posts for moderator review

[Todd]

Originally Posted by aaron23

seems as though if you type a long post moderators need to look into it.

A problem now is how come the puppy is being a princess and NOT eating out of the bowl but eating each kibble out of my hand? She wont eat otherwise, I went through 3/4ths of the meal hand feeding her....

Awaiting my prior 2 posts for moderator review

Some dogs are like that. You hand feeding her will only makes things worse. Keep her food in the bowl. She'll eat it eventually when she realizes that you won't hand feed her. She will not starve herself, trust me. Also if you want you could try mixing some yogurt in the food or some fresh meat. This should make it more enticing and is healthy too.

[Lara's mom]

You could also try grating up some cheddar and sprinkling it over the food. I have yet to come across a dog who doesn't love cheese!

[aaron23]

thank you so much for your advice Todd and Laura

I will definitely try them both.

I had 2 posts of updates and they have yet to be approved by mods is there something wrong? I wanted both of your comments.. on those posts

[Todd]

Originally Posted by aaron23

thank you so much for your advice Todd and Laura

I will definitely try them both.

I had 2 posts of updates and they have yet to be approved by mods is there something wrong? I wanted both of your comments.. on those posts

I'm not sure. try private messageing one of the mods. Regular mods are Yogi and Lunareclipse.

[aaron23]

the posts have become visible. Awaiting your knowledge and inspiration and hope thank you so much.

[Yogi]

Originally Posted by aaron23

Lunar - you dont need to buy all new sand and all new base rock. It is just another cycle. You can complete the cycle through just weekly water change with no fish, coral, inverts in the system. No need to buy more or new rocks / sand.

I brought the puppy to the vet today as required by the adoption contracts within 72 hours. I've been catching and rewarding the puppy to relieve itself outside and last night I was able to help her keep the cage clean!!!



Between 1-6am i was up every 2 hours to check on it and help it go to the bathroom. The vet said that is ridiculous to meet its demands but to just let it go in the cage and when you correct it it will eventually stop
-should i go with that?

Additionally the vet today brought up the fact that if the pup stopped eating its blood sugar could drop to severe levels and the puppy can go into comma.

Weird thing she barely answered any of my questions told me to go to the behavior center and get them answered there through a program...
After I came home and took the pup outside and then back in for a meal... it has a loss of appetitie.

She ate at 6AM and then went to the vet at 11am. I tried the second feeding at 12pm and she will only eat pieces from my hand and occasionally nipping in the bowl. What should I do or is there anything to be worried about?

Thank you all

Aaron.

Part of what you are missing here is that this is a "puppy" not a dog. You do not expect and infant to quitting wetting its diapers when it is an infant in turn puppies go when they have to go. Small bladder limits the ability to hold urine for more than a couple hours. Feeding times need to be regulated to allow ample time before bed/crating for their metabolism to process the food and have the appropriate bowel movement. For the record, Science diet or any other dry along with any raw makes not difference as to the time it takes to process. Dogs like people are not on the same schedule with regards to metabolism. Some process faster than others. In addition, I have dogs on Science diet and mine go the same time as those that are not on Science diet. So food is not the issue nor is part of the reason you came here. You want to house train your dog, get into a routine. Same time fed, same time outside every day. The misfortune that you have like so many others is that you elected to get a puppy during the winter when it was convenient for you but not the pup. People who get puppies during the summer months have less problem and find it easier to get a dog house trained simply because the weather is more conducive. Where the problem lies is that people do not like to burdened with a puppy during summer months when they themselves are more active and not at home as much as they are during the winter months. Unfortunately, the weather is colder, damper and puppies simply do not like this weather since they have their puppy coats which do not offer that much protection from cold and wet weather as their adult coats will once they come in.
As for the vet true and false. A puppy that does not eat can suffer blood sugar loss which is essential for an active puppy to avoid the pup from having seizures or possible comma due to hypoglycemia (drop in blood sugar).
Feeding puppies can be difficult and it is not uncommon for them to go through finicky stages when it comes to food. What was the dog being fed before you got it. Find out and try to stay with this for the time being. If it is the same, try variations but do not go too far off course. Drastic changes in puppies is simply not good and can lead to far more problems. These are not dogs, they are "babies". Once you start to look at them in this light you will understand their short comings and accept that along with everything else, they require a great deal of patience and less worry.
False, forcing and allowing the dog to defecate is not correct. The vet in this case has no idea what he is talking about. So long as you take up the water bowl a fair time before he/she goes into the crate and be sure that feeding is done some hours earlier with ample time to go out (most likely a few times) before crating, you should see a reduction in crate mess. Yes, the crate should be just large enough to lay, stand and turn around. Leaving anymore room will invite accidents.
Find a routine and stick to it. Like people, whether we like it or not we are routine oriented. The dog needs to have one that coincides with yours to make the transition work. Just be patient. No one said owning a puppy is easy anymore than having a baby. They both require a great deal of work and patience in order to reap the rewards they offer later. Good Luck.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by aaron23

Lunar - you dont need to buy all new sand and all new base rock. It is just another cycle. You can complete the cycle through just weekly water change with no fish, coral, inverts in the system. No need to buy more or new rocks / sand.

I brought the puppy to the vet today as required by the adoption contracts within 72 hours. I've been catching and rewarding the puppy to relieve itself outside and last night I was able to help her keep the cage clean!!!



Between 1-6am i was up every 2 hours to check on it and help it go to the bathroom. The vet said that is ridiculous to meet its demands but to just let it go in the cage and when you correct it it will eventually stop
-should i go with that?

Additionally the vet today brought up the fact that if the pup stopped eating its blood sugar could drop to severe levels and the puppy can go into comma.

Weird thing she barely answered any of my questions told me to go to the behavior center and get them answered there through a program...
After I came home and took the pup outside and then back in for a meal... it has a loss of appetitie.

She ate at 6AM and then went to the vet at 11am. I tried the second feeding at 12pm and she will only eat pieces from my hand and occasionally nipping in the bowl. What should I do or is there anything to be worried about?

Thank you all

Aaron.

Glad you kept the cage clean! No don't just let her go in the cage. This will by no means solve the problem. You have to catch her in the act for training to be successful. As I said, after a few days of addressing the problems I talked about the other night, things will get a lot easier. Once you start getting her to go more during the day outside things will be a lot easier at night. If consistantly doing what I've discussed with you, keep letting her out every 2 hours for the next day or so. Then the next night every 3 hours, then a few nights later every 4 hours, etc until she finally is able to go all night! Just be patient. Don't rush the process. Keep up consistant training during the day (this is very, very important to stay on top of). Just keep it up with positive reinforcement as well a corrective criticism if you will (nonviolent obviously).

There is some truth to harmful effects from pups not eating but have you tried adding some yogurt mixed in with the food? How about some fresh meat or as Laura's Mom mentioned some cheese mixed in? This may very well do the trick. Give this a shot before anything.

[jjchiosa]

wow this is what's happening to me besides the poop/pee in crate part. I don't mind the training part but only if it worked you know? I spent so much time watching her like she's the president and then when i turn around she's peeing then i catch her in the act then bring her to the pee pads (and this is the only way because no one can bring her out because of school and work) then she just stares at me. Then i take her around the house again and then she finishes the job. Whyyyyyyyy? I don't know why she won't go on the pee pads. I'm just starting crate training and hopefully it works.

[Sidney]

I think you're just expecting too much from a ten week old. They don't have a lot of control. I'm crate training my nine week old and she is doing pretty good. (I do have a big crate for her though)

From my experience I tried using card board on the bottom of the cart when she was peeing. -she chewed it I tried putting a huge pillow in the crate. -she pee'd and spilled water on it After a week I wanted to find something else.

Then I got an idea from my mom about what she did when my brother and I were babies. When she put us in the crib she would leave an old shirt that smelled like her to calm us. So I figured maybe she's doing it because she's scared (I adopted her). I got an old WHITE shirt of mine and ripped boxer from my boyfriend and put it in the crate with her. The first few days she would pee on them but THEN she has been keeping her crate clean.
=/ However she still barks in her crate when I leave.