Hi guys Im new here and yesterday I found a beautiful little puppy girl with a 1 tattooed in her right ear and a 3 tattooed in her left ear.

Does this sound like gang stuff or AKC tattoos?

She a pit bull and Im in las vegas.

Hey there, welcome to the forum.

Come on guys no one knows anything about what kind of tattoo this may be?

AKC doesn't have tattoo's. its obviously not a license. I would guess it is something the owner did. one of them may reflect the order born.

tattoos have not been done in the ears for many years as dogs were showing up in research labs with only one ear.

IF you do advertise her as a found dog do not include that info. in fact I don't recommend advertising found dogs at all. call the appropriate AC's, HS's & watch diligently for lost reports everywhere including newspapers.

[Yogi]

as you did not state the type of tattoo it would be hard to determine. The CKC
Canadian Kennel Club does require a tattoo.

I did say what kind of tattoo.

Did you not read the post?

Thank you for answering me Suebgone but in my searches on the internet I have seen information that says they do tattoo for ID and the dogs with cut off ears for labs is a myth from what I could find also.

There is no need to use a valueble dog for this when there is a vast amount of dogs who no one wants that they can use.

Very sad really that any dog would be used in such a manner.

[lil mutt]

i dont know that AKC will put tattoo to dogs... i think someone tattooed it on the dog...

Oh well iit doesnt matter now. I found the little girl a home. At the dog park I met a lady who rescues German Shepards and has land with horses and two young teenaged girls. She took this little lovey home and she will have a doggy dream life now with a 1 year old German Shepard , horses and teen aged girls to love her for many years to come.

Score one for the pooch. She went from the frying pan and fell right into the gravy pot with a little help from her friend Hanksinheaven.

[Yogi]

Originally Posted by hanksinheaven

I did say what kind of tattoo.

Did you not read the post?

Thank you for answering me Suebgone but in my searches on the internet I have seen information that says they do tattoo for ID and the dogs with cut off ears for labs is a myth from what I could find also.

There is no need to use a valueble dog for this when there is a vast amount of dogs who no one wants that they can use.

Very sad really that any dog would be used in such a manner.

excuse me, but the way I read it it seemed to imply there was 1 tattoo in one ear and 3 tattoo's in the other ear. My mistake.
No, AKC does not tattoo and as Sue pointed out has not in years. In Canada this is still required by the CKC. Any AKC dog that may have it now is not going to be in show but may be something that the breeder has elected to do on their own. Considering micro chip is available, the odds are not likely.
As for dogs with clipped ears, this is not a myth but a fact. Granted it has not been going on for many years primarily due to the stopping of the tattoo by the AKC so no reason to clip the ear any longer.
I have been breeding and raising dogs for over 48 years and am very much aware as Sue is of this prior problem.
Note, not everything is on the internet. Much comes from years of experience.

[Yogi]

Originally Posted by hanksinheaven

I did say what kind of tattoo.

Did you not read the post?

Thank you for answering me Suebgone but in my searches on the internet I have seen information that says they do tattoo for ID and the dogs with cut off ears for labs is a myth from what I could find also.

There is no need to use a valueble dog for this when there is a vast amount of dogs who no one wants that they can use.

Very sad really that any dog would be used in such a manner.

excuse me, but the way I read it it seemed to imply there was 1 tattoo in one ear and 3 tattoo's in the other ear. My mistake.
No, AKC does not tattoo and as Sue pointed out has not in years. In Canada this is still required by the CKC. Any AKC dog that may have it now is not going to be in show but may be something that the breeder has elected to do on their own. Considering micro chip is available, the odds are not likely.
As for dogs with clipped ears, this is not a myth but a fact. Granted it has not been going on for many years primarily due to the stopping of the tattoo by the AKC so no reason to clip the ear any longer.
I have been breeding and raising dogs for over 48 years and am very much aware as Sue is of this prior problem.
Note, not everything is on the internet. Much comes from years of experience. The other thing to note is there are no checks in balances in place on the internet so assuming what is reflected on a site pertaining to subject matter is no guarantee that it is in fact valid or from reliable resources. One site can easily give information where another pertaining to the same subject may not. Food for thought. In my case, I stuck to the library and AKC articles wherein it was safe that the information was valid. Since as a breeder we were regularly notified of issues, including the ear clipping. But as stated that was some time ago. I have not heard of any recently though.

Thank you Yogi for all that information. I applogise for using a little psyhcology on you. It seems sometimes a little confrontation seems to spur people to answer. I really do think it was a gang tattoo because of the shape of the numbers. The MS 13 gang uses a flat topped three for their name and this 1 and 3 looked just like the style they use. The wonderful thing is she will now never have to fight or be a puppy machine. She will learn to run along side horses and snuggle with teenagers while her new brother plays with her all day long.

It was really the best possible out come.

I love dogs and I have to admitt I would never buy a dog and only ever rescue.

My Aussie is a rescue.

I really am not trying to be rude but how do breeders reconcile bringing puppies into the world when there are so many dogs needing homes already?

I hope this question does not offend you I really am just wondering about it.

[Yogi]

the issue with regards to the tattoo and shape of the numbers you have to realize is something that you may recognize as it relates to a gang where you live but for others, we never heard of them or have gang issues where we live so this would not have been anything we could have identified.
I am not offended by the question considering I was rescuing dogs long before it was fashionable or mainstream as it is today. My breeding was limited to buyers in advance and limited litters. I was breeding and raising Australian Shepherds in the early 70's when the only people who really knew of this breed were farmers. They were the ones who bought them. I also have raised and bred for many years, Miniature Pinschers. If you are unaware of the true Miniature Pinscher than you are not aware that they are in fact a working breed. I am not referring to the little poorly bred nervous little lap dog but a true Miniature Pinscher. They are in fact NOT a toy breed but one of the oldest terriers in the world. They are extremely efficient ratters and again majority of mine when to local farmers.
Breeding for the sake of is not what I did. It was for a purpose that was needed in the area in which I live, farm and ranching area. Though my Miniature Pinscher stock are direct decedents of CH bloodlines, I have only taken those with the natural instincts to perform what they were bred to do and continued with this. It is unfortunate that the Miniature (Zwerg) Pinscher was so refined in this country and Canada as well as the UK that it lost much of its natural build. I am slowly again bringing this back. So my goals if you think are to overpopulate or are monetary you are grossly mistaken. I have one breeding male and 2 breeding females. Far stretch from the majority of reputable breeders who have to mass produce to pay for their travel to shows and their kennel upkeep. I mean in short, they have to pay a small fortune just to win a $1.75 ribbon. In doing so they are really doing nothing to endorse the actual breed. Instead they breed something that is a falsehood of the actual dog all for the sake of trying to create and emphasize a mistake on the part of the AKC in 1921. When if they had checked with the original breed standard from the country of origin which they should have, they would have found the breed was not a toy breed but competed against the Schnauzers and German Pinschers where the Zwergpinscher in its original form was a strong sturdy (not fragile as prone to be here) dog designed to go to ground with vigor after any and all vermin. Where do you think the American Rat Terrier came from or why. American farmers created the breed for the same purpose German farmers created the Miniature Pinscher. You cross a smooth coated Dachshund (excellent ratter and favorite German breed with an Italian Greyhound (another excellent ground dog) and alas, you have the perfect canine feral. Over 60 years ago the Miniature Pinscher was introduced as breed stock for the American Rat Terrier. The Zwergpinscher is not nor never has been an offshoot of the German (Deutscher) Pinscher as many like to believe. They are their own breed and were around over 100 years before the German Pinscher which is actually a smooth coated standard Schnauzer. The Zwergpinscher is not related to Karl Frederich Louis Dobermann's Pinscher either. The name pinscher though is given to these breeds for only one reason, they way the bite. Pinscher in German translates to biter or scissor biting action where all three breeds share this. Dobermanns Pinscher is a product of the Deutcher Pinscher being used as breed stock therefore the trait carried over to his breed. The Schnauzer as well as the Dachshund also posses this trait.
As for my personally, I do not recommend nor very seldom sell pups to individuals for their homes. Miniature Pinschers in their true form are not very good house pets do to their natural instincts. Stubborn, extremely independent, do not take well to training. As they were ferals they did not need human contact. They do not take well to over handling which is why many are seen as aggressive biting little dogs. Unfortunately most do not research before purchasing a dog and if they had read up on the pros and cons of this breed would quit looking at it as a cute little Doberman and see it for what it really is, and would probably pass on it.
I do not support breeding for the sake of making money. Betterment of the breed yes if betterment means bringing it back to its original design and structure. Leave these breeds to those who created it in the first place. Those that have followed looking to change it have only caused more problems that the original breeders spent years eliminating.

...thank you for that very well informed and eloquent post; it is nice to see a breeder who is able to articulate his or her position without resorting to defensiveness.

I agree a wonderful and very informative post.

MS 13 is a gang that is all over the United States. I am in Las Vegas Nevada.
Unfortunately the gangs seem to like pit bulls for the purpose of status and for the "sport" of fighting.

I can fullly understand the breeding of true working dogs. I have to admit though I do take umbrage to people breeding for money or even just so that their dog could have had the opportunity to breed. I feel that there are so many dogs being killed everyday just because no one is willing to give them a home that it is very irresponsible to breed for vanity or cash.

Thanks again for the wonderful post.

[wishbone]

This thread reminds me of Oprah's episode exposing the "Massive Pet Overpopulation and Puppy Mills".

i know this is over a year old but thought i should post a response since i was doing some research and this thread came up.

https://www.akc.org/classified/suppo...ary.cfm#TATTOO

or

AKC CAR - Companion Animal Recovery - Copyright 2009 All Rights Reserved

i wish this was a requirement for all dog owners regardless of breed. too many animales are left on the side of the road or abused. perhaps this would help detour some of this. anyways sorry for the rant. just wanted to make sure the next person that researches something like this had the info

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Originally Posted by hanksinheaven

Thank you Yogi for all that information. I applogise for using a little psyhcology on you. It seems sometimes a little confrontation seems to spur people to answer. I really do think it was a gang tattoo because of the shape of the numbers. The MS 13 gang uses a flat topped three for their name and this 1 and 3 looked just like the style they use. The wonderful thing is she will now never have to fight or be a puppy machine. She will learn to run along side horses and snuggle with teenagers while her new brother plays with her all day long.

It was really the best possible out come.

I love dogs and I have to admitt I would never buy a dog and only ever rescue.

My Aussie is a rescue.

I really am not trying to be rude but how do breeders reconcile bringing puppies into the world when there are so many dogs needing homes already?

I hope this question does not offend you I really am just wondering about it.

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