Hi everyone! We adopted a cockapoo on April 10th. He is a very lovable dog. Unfortunatly this is his fourth rehoming. He is about 1 year old. He loves my kids alot ( I have a 9 year old boy and a 5 year old boy.) He is somewhat toy possesive, but we are working on that. He is not neutered and his vaccination history is unknown. We have an appointment to have him neutered and vaccinated on the 20th. He marks and has had a couple of accidents, but we are working on that also.He is very clingy and follows me everywhere I go. The only thing that concerns me is his barking. He does not bark at me, but he is very wary of new people, and he growls and barks especially at men. He will also bark at my husband when he comes home even though he has spent alot of time with him. My neighbor saw him and waved me over and Sammy barked and growled up a storm. I do not know to correct this as I never had a dog with trust issues. We had a flat coated retriever and she would probably lick a burglar to death. Or is it a trust issue? Does he just need to adjust? He is very spunky and smart, I have no idea why people were would ever get rid of such a cool dog. oh and one moe question, how do you get rid of those tear stains around his eyes. I do not want to use angel eyes as it has antibiotics. I am feeding him Canidae chicken meal and rice formula. OOPS here is a pic. Cockapoo right?

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by poo76

Hi everyone! We adopted a cockapoo on April 10th. He is a very lovable dog. Unfortunatly this is his fourth rehoming. He is about 1 year old. He loves my kids alot ( I have a 9 year old boy and a 5 year old boy.) He is somewhat toy possesive, but we are working on that. He is not neutered and his vaccination history is unknown. We have an appointment to have him neutered and vaccinated on the 20th. He marks and has had a couple of accidents, but we are working on that also.He is very clingy and follows me everywhere I go. The only thing that concerns me is his barking. He does not bark at me, but he is very wary of new people, and he growls and barks especially at men. He will also bark at my husband when he comes home even though he has spent alot of time with him. My neighbor saw him and waved me over and Sammy barked and growled up a storm. I do not know to correct this as I never had a dog with trust issues. We had a flat coated retriever and she would probably lick a burglar to death. Or is it a trust issue? Does he just need to adjust? He is very spunky and smart, I have no idea why people were would ever get rid of such a cool dog. oh and one moe question, how do you get rid of those tear stains around his eyes. I do not want to use angel eyes as it has antibiotics. I am feeding him Canidae chicken meal and rice formula.

Hi! Welcome! I have a cocker named Max and a cocker/golden retriever mix named Corky. Cockers do like to bark! But with all the homes that dog has had in his short life---may have something to do with it too---I'm wondering, esp. since he clings to you, if he does it out of jealousy too--whenever you are with other people, like he is saying, "This is mine, stay away!" One thing that really bothers me ( I am against vaccinations--they can do so much harm to the dog, esp. later in its life when the immune system has 'broken down' and then they are prone to all kinds of nasty things happening like kidney problems, liver disease, cancer, all kinds of diseases because they no longer have the defenses they need!) Anyway, what bothers me is that you don't know if he has had vaccinations or not and with having been with 4 dif. homes---you would think he might have had some vaccinations, esp. since most dogs have already been vaccinated long before they got to be a year old! Is there any way you could find out from some of the homes he has been in? I wish you would look up some of the posts I have in this forum under Dog Health and Nutrition, esp. the ones titled Because You Love Your Dog. There are a lot of websites listed that you can click on--some to do with vaccinations. If you can't find out whether he has had any shots or not, you could do a titer (not sure if this is spelled correctly) test to see if he needs vaccinating, but it can be a little costly I think. And I know dogs should not be stressed when they get their shots--new home and all. And if it were me I wouldn't get him neutered at the same time---too much to load on the immune sytem at one time and ditto for too many shots at one time, esp. the dreaded Rabies shot--which should have several months space between it and any other shots or any illnesses or trauma. Going to send this message now and come right back with 2nd one--These messages automatically don't get posted if they are too long! Be right back.

[CorkyMax]

The vets like to give too many shots at once, and please don't take the vet's word as 'gospel' on many things. Unless you have an exceptional vet that is not greedy, just doesn't care, and has acquired extra knowledge other than the greedy pet food or pharmacutical company sponsored vet schools who really don't stress preventative measures to keep your dog healthy. My vet actually told me that they only have about 1 day of schooling on vitamins and supplements, etc. She could not answer my questions on these subjects!! Also please do some searching on the web with words in your browser like: vaccinations/dogs/reactions, find a site that tells you whether you really need to get some of the shots--a few for sure a dog could do without--some shots are worse than the disease, itself!
Can't really tell you much about the tear stains right now, but know I read something on this in all my many books and clippings. Will get back to you on this if and when I find the info.
Sounds like you have a big job ahead of you, if it has had 4 homes already--prob. has a lot of issues to deal with. Hope you love it enough to be able to deal with him and give him the good home he needs and deserves, the poor baby. Can you tell I love dogs, lol! One 'upbeat' thing I can say about the poodle part (and this is quoted from a book I have)--Once a Poodle owner, always a Poodle owner---fanciers of this breed seldom become attached to another. The winning ways of these clever animals captivate almost everyone. Considered by many the most intelligent of all breeds, the Poodle makes a very good watchdog for its size. There are many more things I could tell you about what it 'says' in a couple of my books on these 2 breeds but too long to go in to now---I could also copy several pages and send them to you if you would be willing to give me your name and address (in a private message on my profile page in this forum.) These pages tell the personalities and also what health problems they are prone to which is a good thing to know so you can be aware what to look for and also do things (like supplements, vitamins, nutrition,etc.) to try to prevent it from happening. I don't like to be so "negative" but I have to tell you that both the cocker and the poodle have a lot of things that they are prone to healthwise---which is why I'd like to get this info to you! I know you don't really know me, but if you check out some of the posts here, I think you will find I am really in it for the dogs and want to help them all I can and that you can trust giving me your address! Let me know. Bye for now. By the way I live not too far from you--a little place called Cobb, Wi.---about 10 miles straight west of Dodgeville, Wi (I retired from Lands' End about 2 yrs ago.) Cobb is also about 50 mile southwest of Madison, Wi.

The only info that I have gotten from the lady that gave Sammy to me is that his first home was the breeder home. The breeder home decided to keep him, but later had to give/sell him to some man because they had to move out of state (lame excuse). So I gather that the breeder home kept him longer than the ussual time when you sell a puppy. Now I don't know how long this man kept him, but he is suspected of abusing Sammy. The lady I got him from had him for 1 month and her excuse is that she does not have enough time to train him and that he has accidents in the house when she is at work. She told me that she called the man and he told her that Sammy probably got the rabies shot.
I am not a believer in vaccination either. I have read the book... food pets die for ,and protect your pet, and I strongly believe in what the author wrote, but the place I am taking Sammy to for his neutering wants proof of vaccinations. I geuss the only thing the actually require is the rabies shot. Wouldn't it be good for him to get the bordatella, and the canine cough vaccination, what about distemper? I know it will be hard on him when I drop him off, but he will see that I will always be back for him. I don't want him to mark in the house and I am hoping that by neutering him, his aggresiveness toward men and strangers will come down.

[CorkyMax]

Just wanted to say I like the name Sammy and could you post some pics of him. I bet he is really cute. Lol, you probably have already surmised that I am 'long winded'----I just can't seem to send shorter messages---I'm too exacting (and sometimes I just hate it!!) It is starting to be close to gardening time and I'm going to have to write quicker replies. Do you garden?
I feed my dogs a raw food (mostly) diet and I garden mainly for the vegs. for them. Corky stands by the garden fence and waits for me to throw him asparagus spears--loves them almost as much as meat. Also waits for green beans and snow peas. Can't even get back in the kitchen door before he starts 'rooting' around in the plastic bag I'm carrying and grabs the 'stuff!' Ha, he is a 'corker'---which is also a nickname for Corky too. Bye again.

[CorkyMax]

Originally Posted by poo76

The only info that I have gotten from the lady that gave Sammy to me is that his first home was the breeder home. The breeder home decided to keep him, but later had to give/sell him to some man because they had to move out of state (lame excuse). So I gather that the breeder home kept him longer than the ussual time when you sell a puppy. Now I don't know how long this man kept him, but he is suspected of abusing Sammy. The lady I got him from had him for 1 month and her excuse is that she does not have enough time to train him and that he has accidents in the house when she is at work. She told me that she called the man and he told her that Sammy probably got the rabies shot.
I am not a believer in vaccination either. I have read the book... food pets die for ,and protect your pet, and I strongly believe in what the author wrote, but the place I am taking Sammy to for his neutering wants proof of vaccinations. I geuss the only thing the actually require is the rabies shot. Wouldn't it be good for him to get the bordatella, and the canine cough vaccination, what about distemper? I know it will be hard on him when I drop him off, but he will see that I will always be back for him. I don't want him to mark in the house and I am hoping that by neutering him, his aggresiveness toward men and strangers will come down.

Did a little research on the web, but prob. could of found more---Did not put bordatella/dogs in my browser (Can you?) I am pressed for time right now--nice enough for me to go out and clean up my garden to get ready for planting time! I did not look up canine cough ( kennel cough?) either. Here is a pretty informative website on vac. and why (why not) to get and when--
http:Dog Vaccination Schedule & the Necessary Dog Vaccinations also go to: Vaccinations Tracie Hotchner Blog In this site find the web result Tracie Hotchner>>vaccinations (prob. 1st web result--It is on my computer) Scroll down to find title, The Dog Bible May Have SolvedTerrible Riddle (make sure to see the reply to that!) and then scroll down to title A Good Vet in Salt Lake City--Be sure to read the answer to Charlene. I just read on a site (prob. in one I mentioned here) that lymes vaccine is at the top of the list to avoid. It can give the dog the disease it supposedly is suppose to protect it against. You know, you have to decide what you think is worse and take a chance one way or the other as to whether to do certain vacs. or not. Lymes disease is one of the iffy ones---It also said it is a reoccuring problem once the dog gets the disease and you can't tell whether it has it or not after you get the shot because the test would show up positive because of the antibodies from having the shot. (Hope I am saying this right) And like I said the shot itself could give the disease--so how do you know if it has the disease or not after you get the shot??!! I personally would not get this one, but if your dog is going to be in places where deer ticks (the carriers) are prevalent--It is a decision you have to make as to whether to or not. As far as the rabies shot, I'm afraid you will be forced to get it if you have no proof of the shot (unless a titer test would prove it had already had it and then you would have to check out the law for your area on whether that would be enough to satisfy your law on rabies.) If you knew where the breeder had lived before moving--maybe you could find out where they had their vet and see if they vaccinated all their dogs or find a forwarding address and get a hold of the proof of vaccination from them if they have it. A long shot I know. You might want to ask in an email to the member in this forum--Kris Christine about this rabies situation ---She knows a lot as she is the head of or chairman of an organization about getting rid of the rabies law---You can ask her about the law in your area too. Just go to her profile in this forum and find all her posts--should be an email address in at least one of the posts she has posted. Am going to post this and come right back--Don't want this to get eliminated because too long!

[CorkyMax]

I just sent an email to Kris L. Christine asking her to send you a post on some of these vac. issues---She is Founder, Co-Trust of the Rabies Challenge Fund. Also would you look up the posts under the title--What to do if You Feel Your Dog is Being Overvaccinated--You can look up this (for 1 place) title by clickiing on Corky/Max to bring up my profile --click statistics and then click find all posts by, etc. Find postings dated 2 weeks ago and you will find that title (above) Scroll up to 1st post and continue through all the posts---good info there (most of the posts, anyway) There are several pages on this --esp. see Vetgroomer's post(s) and Kris Christine's (and mine, lol, of course.)
You know I am not an expert, but I do have a lot of books and search a lot on the internet, and I clip a lot of articles I find, and you will find the opposite answer 'out there' for almost anything you try to research--pros and cons for everything! I had read that neutering is suppose to make a dog more calmer and gentler and I have also read that that isn't true--that a dog that already has his habits will still have them. I believe the latter as I had my cocker neutered and there was no difference that I could see. He had prostrate problems, and that is the only reason I had him neutered as that is suppose to help--and it did stop the problem--He was having pools of blood (from the I LOVE DOGS!I LOVE DOGS!I LOVE DOGS!I LOVE DOGS!I LOVE DOGS!) and no problem since, which was done 4 or 5 yrs ago. I do believe the neutering causes them to gain weight--and I have read that it doesn't and I have read that it does--even a vet agreed that they can gain weight because of it. And I also read it might help them to not get cancer of the prostrate. But I think (I may be wrong--and when some of the other members read this--they may agree or not--a lot of members are dog trainers or have taken their dogs to dog training classes) I think it would prob. be a good idea to take Sammy to these if you could (after he gets whatever shots you are going to get him and when he gets more use to his new environment). I am thinking that is the best way to try to solve the problems you are having--barking and all! What do you trainers think??:wink:
You will see this info if you read the above posts I mentioned but just in case, It sounds like Bordatella shots are not that necessary. Got to go--at the rate I'm going--it will be dark before I even get to the garden,lol. GOOD LUCK and hope you figure out what to do before you go to vet.

[CorkyMax]

Just noticed that you have posted a pic---sure looks mostly poodle, maybe more cocker ears! Very expressive baby---course I know about his background so maybe I'm just reading this in there because of that--but I feel from looking at his expressive face that he has been through a lot and hopefully in time he will feel that he has finally found a good home and be very happy he is where he is now. Will try to find some info on the tearing of the eyes. Might take awhile as I have no idea where I saw this and got to get busy here---gardening time!

[Kris L. Christine]

Originally Posted by poo76

Hi everyone! We adopted a cockapoo on April 10th. He is a very lovable dog. He is about 1 year old. We have an appointment to have him neutered and vaccinated on the 20th.

Poo76,

Where did you adopt your cockapoo from? If it was from a shelter, they usually do the whole set of vaccinations before they let out an animal for adoption and should have the records.

Illinois has a 3 year rabies law, but if you don't have any records of rabies shots, your little one is going to have to have the puppy series all over again. Here is the link to the law State of Illinois Rabies Laws: Illinois Title 8 Part 30 Animal Control Act http://www.agr.state.il.us/Laws/Regs/AnimalActReg.pdf.

Because research has shown that an increase in vaccinal adverse reactions is associated with smaller dogs and multiple inoculations, you do not want to give your cockapoo anything it doesn't need. Personally, I would titer for the 3 core canine diseases: distemper, hepatitis, and parvo rather than giving a redundant vaccination -- it may cost a little more than having an extra combo booster, but it is nothing compared to the expense of your little one having a significant adverse reaction that needs medical attention.

Your vet can get an in-office pass/fail titer kit for distemper and parvo from TiterChek ActiveData Search Results page that will cost less than sending bloodwork to a lab for a specific antibody count.

Also, be aware that it is safest and more effective to give one vaccine at a time, with a separation of 2 - 3 weeks between. The more vaccinations given at one time, the more likely the dog is to have an adverse reaction and the more risk that the vaccine components will interfere with one another and neutralize their affect. For my own dog, I would have it titered and given any core vaccines it needs 3 weeks before having it neutered.

Below are some links to excellent information on canine vaccines from authoritative sources. I'm more than happy to share information and answer any questions I can.

Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz Duration of Immunity

What Everyone Needs to Know about Canine Vaccines, Dr. Ronald Schultz
What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines

Vaccination: An Overview Dr. Melissa Kennedy, DVM360 Vaccination: An overview (Proceedings) - Veterinary Healthcare

World Small Animal Veterinary Association 2007 Vaccine Guidelines - WSAVA - Scientific Advisory Committee Scroll down to Vaccine Guidelines 2007 (PDF)

The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at Special Report .

The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at About AAHA .

Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at Home

[Kris L. Christine]

Not sure what happened to the response I posted, hopefully it won't disappear into Cyberspace again.

Originally Posted by poo76

Hi everyone! We adopted a cockapoo on April 10th. He is a very lovable dog. He is about 1 year old. We have an appointment to have him neutered and vaccinated on the 20th.

Poo76,

Where did you adopt your cockapoo from? If it was from a shelter, they usually do the whole set of vaccinations before they let out an animal for adoption and should have the records.

Illinois has a 3 year rabies law, but if you don't have any records of rabies shots, your little one is going to have to have the puppy series all over again. Here is the link to the law State of Illinois Rabies Laws: Illinois Title 8 Part 30 Animal Control Act http://www.agr.state.il.us/Laws/Regs/AnimalActReg.pdf.

Because research has shown that an increase in vaccinal adverse reactions is associated with smaller dogs and multiple inoculations, you do not want to give your cockapoo anything it doesn't need. Personally, I would titer for the 3 core canine diseases: distemper, hepatitis, and parvo rather than giving a redundant vaccination -- it may cost a little more than having an extra combo booster, but it is nothing compared to the expense of your little one having a significant adverse reaction that needs medical attention.

Your vet can get an in-office pass/fail titer kit for distemper and parvo from TiterChek ActiveData Search Results page that will cost less than sending bloodwork to a lab for a specific antibody count.

Also, be aware that it is safest and more effective to give one vaccine at a time, with a separation of 2 - 3 weeks between. The more vaccinations given at one time, the more likely the dog is to have an adverse reaction and the more risk that the vaccine components will interfere with one another and neutralize their affect. For my own dog, I would have it titered and given any of the core vaccines it needs 3 weeks before having it neutered.

Below are some links to excellent information on canine vaccines from authoritative sources. I'm more than happy to share information and answer any questions I can.

Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz Duration of Immunity

What Everyone Needs to Know about Canine Vaccines, Dr. Ronald Schultz
What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines

Vaccination: An Overview Dr. Melissa Kennedy, DVM360 Vaccination: An overview (Proceedings) - Veterinary Healthcare

World Small Animal Veterinary Association 2007 Vaccine Guidelines - WSAVA - Scientific Advisory Committee Scroll down to Vaccine Guidelines 2007 (PDF)

The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at Special Report .

The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at About AAHA .

Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at Home

WOW, alot of info Corky/MAx! Sorry I could not get back to you sooner.I was cooking Sammy food. I freeze it in batches.He doesn't want to eat the canidae dog food I bought him. I know about the barf/raw diet, but I am scared to try it with Sammy. My aunt feeds her three dogs the raw diet and they love it. My mom tried it with her cockapoo and she ended up taking Sara to the vet twice. My mom buys Sara those frozen meat patties.Sara does well with those, but when she tried a chicken wing, she had the runs for FIVE days! She only nibbled on the wing, we don't exactly know what happened, but my mom will never try it again. She almost lost Sara.It caused her alot of heart ache, not to mention a pretty pricey vet bill.
I know what you mean about the expression in Sammy's eyes. When I sit on the couch he will jump and snuggle next to me and sleep,but will start up several times and look at me like " OH you're here, but I know you will leave soon won't you?''.
Yes, I love to garden. I start all my flowers/veggies indoor in late february. We don't have a large garden. Last year I had tomatoes, zuchinni, cucumers, anf some greens, parsley and lots of dill.
I think with all the moving around, Sammy was never taught to go potty outside properly. I take him out every 2 hours, praise him and give him treats. He had one peeing accident today. He will eventually learn right? Does anyone have experience with teaching an older dog to go potty?

[CorkyMax]

Hope you read my private message. Here is what Kris sent me: Illinois has a 3 yr. rabies law, but if you don't have any records of rabies shots, your little one is going to have to have the puppy series all over again. Here is the link to the law--State of Illinois Rabies Laws (b) Illinois Title 8 part 30 Animal Control Act (/b)(url) http://www.agr.state.il.us/Laws/Regs/AnimalActReg.pdf.
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Because research has shown that an increase in vaccinal adverse reactions is associated with smaller dogs and multiple inoculations, you do not want to give your cockapoo anything it doesn't need. Personally, I would titer for the 3 core canine diseases: distemper, hepatitis, and parvo rather than giving a redundant vaccination--it may cost a little more than having an extra combo booster, but it is nothing compared to expense of your little one having a significant adverse reaction that needs medical attention.
Your vet can get an in-office pass/fail titer kit for distemper and parvo from TiterCheck (url) ActiveData Search Results page ) ActiveData Search Results page(url) that will cost less than sending a bloodwork to a lab for a specific antibody count.
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[CorkyMax]

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[CorkyMax]

Well, the continued next part did not make it---got knocked out ---for whatever reason I don't know---It was not too long either. Kris Christine is having same problem with her posts which is why she wanted me to post the previous post above Just letting you know!!!

[CorkyMax]

Left you a couple private messages--Did you see them?

Originally Posted by poo76

Hi everyone! We adopted a cockapoo on April 10th. He is a very lovable dog. Unfortunatly this is his fourth rehoming. He is about 1 year old. He loves my kids alot ( I have a 9 year old boy and a 5 year old boy.) He is somewhat toy possesive, but we are working on that. He is not neutered and his vaccination history is unknown. We have an appointment to have him neutered and vaccinated on the 20th. He marks and has had a couple of accidents, but we are working on that also.He is very clingy and follows me everywhere I go. The only thing that concerns me is his barking. He does not bark at me, but he is very wary of new people, and he growls and barks especially at men. He will also bark at my husband when he comes home even though he has spent alot of time with him. My neighbor saw him and waved me over and Sammy barked and growled up a storm. I do not know to correct this as I never had a dog with trust issues. We had a flat coated retriever and she would probably lick a burglar to death. Or is it a trust issue? Does he just need to adjust? He is very spunky and smart, I have no idea why people were would ever get rid of such a cool dog. oh and one moe question, how do you get rid of those tear stains around his eyes. I do not want to use angel eyes as it has antibiotics. I am feeding him Canidae chicken meal and rice formula. OOPS here is a pic. Cockapoo right?

Hello welcome to this forum and congratulation for having new pup hope u r enjoining with him a lot plz if u have send some pics for us take care