I am just getting a feel for this Animail Forum before I start asking questions because I have had very bad luck with a different one in terms of reactions.

What are some general feelins about dog training? I.E. if you have a dog with SA, or randomly peed in the house one day right in front of you without asking to go out, or escaping from crates like houdini?

Thanks

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SA is diagnosed by a behaviorist and likely treated by a vet...if it is true SA.

Random peeing in the house is either a medical condition like UTI or a housetraining issue.

Escaping crates can be a symptom of SA, it could be a symptom of bad associations with the crate, or it could be a symptom of the dog creating his own activities.

oh, my dog has the same thing

Originally Posted by LabLover0303

I am just getting a feel for this Animail Forum before I start asking questions because I have had very bad luck with a different one in terms of reactions.

What are some general feelins about dog training? I.E. if you have a dog with SA, or randomly peed in the house one day right in front of you without asking to go out, or escaping from crates like houdini?

Thanks

I agree with someone else who said that SA can be diagnosed only by a vet,hopefully if your vet has diagnosed your pup, he/she would have given you some help as to how to make it better for him.

How old is your dog? and what kind?

Try using a KONG or something else while your dog is in the crate. Make it a safe fun place for him, he's probably getting out bc he's scared, or jsut bored. My puppy LOVES her crate, she goes in there when we're home etc just bc I just leave the door open all the time and she just goes in and out.
At first I fed her in it, that shows the dog that its a positive place, they see that they get fed there so they like it! Make sure its comfortable, I put a blanket in there for Molly. I also cover it with a blanket when we're gone, or go to sleep(which are the only times she goes in there now-when we first were training her we put her in there with the door closed to eat, then we would put her in for abotu 10-15 mins a day with us home, jsut so she could get used to it.

I had a very negative experience on another dog forum as well, so I know where you are coming from. People are very sensitive when it comes to their animals, and any animals in general. I think its so important for people to understand that all dogs are different, and what works for one, may not work for another, and that doesn't make your method right or wrong, it just makes it what works for YOUR dog. I hope that this forum is more positive for you than the other one, so far for me, it has been much better!

Thanks so much for your information?

This website has so far been much more helpful

He is a 5 year old neutered male whiteboxer. He has had bad experiences with cages with previous owners. He was a rescue. However, if we leave him out in the house, he opens the refrigerator (which we figure, get the refrigerator lock) and gets into the garbage, which we can put in another room. But also gets on the furniture (which probably most dogs do when the owners arent there, but we have dark brown furniture and he is white, its ExTREMELY obvious..haha)

We can't just lock him in a room becuase he treats it the same way as if he's in the cage. When we are home he asks us to go potty but if we aren't home he just goes,its like he is mad at us and this is his way of getting us back.

He will go in the cage while we are here and like walk around, in and out all just fine, until we leave.

we have tried bones, nylabones, kong toys, his blankets, my boyfriends shirts (its really his dog but we just moved intogether) we have tried putting music on in the room, leaving the tv on upstairsto make him think we are here, turning the lights off, leaving them on. I mean everything.

Last resort is taking him to the vet and hoping they have some kind of dog prozac to calm him down.

He also doesn't listen to me or see's me as an authority figure. I tried correcting him once for peeing in the house while i was sleeping and my boyfriend was gone for the night and he bit me and drew blood. We just don't know what to do unless the vet can give him something.

Hello fellow boxer lover!

I have a 3 year old female who is a rescue also and her S/A is pretty bad. It is def better with time though. We just had to start making the kennel a very happy place. I would put her in the kennel but stay in the room. Usually I'd give her a bone or randomly toss her some treats if she was being quiet. Then I'd leave her and just exit the room...see what would happen, reward her for being calm and quiet. Then we worked up to me just leaving the house (walking down the street or just stepping outside) and see what happens.

She will now go in her kennel on command and we've been able to take the clamps off the kennel. yeah, we had to CLAMP the kennel shut just so she wouldnt escape lol.

Originally Posted by SwayRaines

Hello fellow boxer lover!

I have a 3 year old female who is a rescue also and her S/A is pretty bad. It is def better with time though.

I'm having the same problem with my new dog (also a rescue). He's destructive outside the crate (counter surfing, ripping things up) as well as inside the crate (pulling the bars, ripping things up). I've spent the last 3 1/2 weeks trying to desensitize him by putting him in the crate for short periods and building up. It seems to be working when I put him in and go downstairs and pretend to leave, but when I actually do leave he still freaks out. I have to go back to work next week and I'm thinking of calling the vet to get some anti-anxiety meds to help the transition. I'm frustrated because I've been working my butt off on this problem and it doesn't seem to be getting better. How long did it take for your dog to improve?

Originally Posted by LabLover0303

He also doesn't listen to me or see's me as an authority figure. I tried correcting him once for peeing in the house while i was sleeping and my boyfriend was gone for the night and he bit me and drew blood. We just don't know what to do unless the vet can give him something.

Punishing or correcting after the deed is done is counter-productive. He had no idea what he was getting in trouble for. Unless you actually catch him in the act, don't punish. What type of correction were you giving when he turned on you?

You probably need the help of a dog rehabilitator to help you and the dog. You need to feel safe and I can't imagine that you do if the dog has already attacked you once. You also need to keep others safe and if you can not control the dog, he is a loose cannon.

Originally Posted by Frecs

Punishing or correcting after the deed is done is counter-productive. He had no idea what he was getting in trouble for. Unless you actually catch him in the act, don't punish. What type of correction were you giving when he turned on you?

You probably need the help of a dog rehabilitator to help you and the dog. You need to feel safe and I can't imagine that you do if the dog has already attacked you once. You also need to keep others safe and if you can not control the dog, he is a loose cannon.

Yeah, i caught him peeing in the bedroom while i was sleeping. The urine hitting the brand new carpet woke me up as a matter of fact. Then he peed 3 more times right in front of me...it was weird he has never done this with anyone else.

When i was correcting him I started the first time with saying "no, you go outside, you go outside and pee, lets go" and we walked down the stairs, he came back in and while i was cleaning up the first uring spot he peed again infront of me i again, a little more stearn this time said the same thing, rushed him outside. Then the third time was the next morning in the living room and i caught him as i came up the stairs from the basement. This time I did touch him, and yes you all may feel like i beat my dog, but i swear when i tell you, i don't even know how to say it so you don't think i am beating him...i swatting him on the rear end and said no, bad dog, you go outside, and then he bit me as the hand that wasn't even touching him went to grab his collar to lead him outside because he wasn't listening to me...

no i did not hurt him, i did not beat him, he did not move, jump, squeal, yelp or anything, i don't even feel it phased him. My boyfriend said he bit me because my hand was close to his face when i was telling him no, and APPARENTLY he doesn't like that. Good thing someone had told me that...

so then i learn he has previously snapped repeatedly at my boyfriend when he was trying to correct him for doing whatever where they used to live, just with me, he actually clamped on.

Now, i had previously worked in a dog kennel when i was younger with up to 70 dogs at a time, feeding, walking, cleaning out runs, cages, giving baths, clipping nails, and playing with. So i do know how to train dogs, treat dogs, clean dogs, and such. So when he bit down i didn't pull away because that would make it worse i just said stearnly, "no, drop it" like it was a toy. didn't even punish him for that.(i have been clamped on before for not noticing a clump of hair on a dog while giving a bath or the dogs getting too excited during play and not knowing their own strength, but it wasn't vicious like keelo was doing this day) And it has been almost a month now, and there are still marks, it is still bruised, and it hurts to the touch.

And its my boyfriends dog so I basically said "either you need to train him, give him back to your parents where he is perfectly happy at, or you take full care of him because I will not be afraid of getting attacked in my own house for doing something i have consistently done with other dogs", including my own 2 labs that live at my parents who are even trained not to go out of the yard and not to go in a certain room in the house without any barriers forcing them out.

It sounds like you're doing everything you can! At this point I would take him to a vet, and see what they say. So he used to live at your bf's parent's house? Did he do any of the same things there?